Late 91-94 Tyson

He likely would have lost to Evander in the fall of 1991 and probably again in a rematch the following spring or summer of 1992.. From there, he goes on a small winning streak, beating fringe types and prospects until he runs into a Bowe or Lewis sometime between 1993-1994 and is defeated. Over the next few years he goes through a pattern of winning some and losing some until his career finally ends around 1998.

 

I cant agree with that at all. Prison turned Tyson into a con man, all show no substance. Pure money speaking, yeah he made a **** load of money fighting nobodies but he probably would have made a similar amount overall or much more with mega fights against Holy, Bowe and Lennox, not to mention re matches. Its not a given he would have lost against Holyfield either, he was still devastating in 91 in comparison to 96. You telling me one fight with Evander would have destroyed near prime Tyson to the point he would have been spent against anyone else?

Prison preserved nothing, or nothing worth preserving in comparison to what he would have done if he didn't go inside, regardless of if he won or lost fights.

Prison destroyed Tyson as a fighter, his career was a circus act after just two years flowing the bite fight. If was all over after that and people paid to see the circus. How did that really help?, yeah he made money but lost it all because he was a mess up. His legacy certainly wasn't helped. Prison sucked the life out of Tyson the fighter, he no longer wanted it the way he did before, he was disgraced, bitter and hated the world.

so yeah, prison stank but Mike had no one to blame but himself.

 

I tend to think Tyson and Holyfield would have been close, I don't rule out Holyfield winning but I don't go with this theory that he would beat Tyson if he was paralyzed from the neck down and in a coma. These would have been close tough fights and Evander wasn't beyond getting knocked down or hurt.
I think Tyson's career could have gone on from that pretty well. I'd agree it would probably come to a head around 94, I think Bowe would have given him issues if he caught Bowe in great shape. I could see Tyson beating an early Lewis then losing later once Lennox improved and Tyson slowed down. As said I agree he would beat most other fighters, he seemed to have an easy time beating fringe contenders while other greats made a meal out of it.
It would never be an easy ride for Tyson, he would be very lucky getting through that era unbeaten but that would be far preferable that going to jail, coming out, then becoming a joke.

 

I think after the Ruddock fights he would have lost to Holyfield, he had already declined before the two Ruddock fights a a loss to Holyfield would have damaged him even more.
Probably would still have had enough to beat Bowe, Lewis, Moorer and Foreman although apart from Moorer I wouldn't make him a huge favourite against any of those opponents.

 

He had declined by the time he fought Ruddock but he was still very dangerous. Still ferocious enough to cause Holyfield problems. Ruddock was hammering Tyson and couldn't get him out of there, did Holyfield hit harder? I'm not convinced Evander would even have been able to hurt Tyson enough to keep him away. He pushed Tyson around in 96 but I don't think it would have been so easy in 91. Yes he threw those killer uppercuts but Tyson would be hitting him back, remember Burt Cooper had him reeling, would Tyson have let him off the hook?
Holyfield was more likely to war with Tyson like he did against Bowe instead of doing the measured wrestling approach? Its a different fight, Tyson would have stamina the whole fight, not just four rounds, he would be determined, not looking for a way out.
Its one way of looking at it, I don't rule out a Holy win but I see these two as well matched in 91, It could go both ways, in turn giving Mike a good career after. I don't see Holyfield destroying Tyson to the point he couldn't do much else in the early 90s

 

Heeeeeere we go again! Every damn Tyson thread. Can you show me which Tyson thread you have something, anything, positive to say about him?

 

A Tyson vs Holyfield match in 1991 would have been a great fight and yes, Mike would still have a chance. but I don't think I would have favored him at that point. The Ruddock bouts gave some insites as to where his skills had gone, and evander was in the peak of his prime.

 

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What was Evanders peak ? Is there one ? he was always very inconsistant.

Holyfields legacy fight is beating a washed up Tyson who by most idiot posters was never any good so Evanders best win is against a bully/dud/fraud ?

A washed up unmotivated Tyson who trained 3 weeks for Holyfield 1 and being in the middle of the Ronney law suit who barely fought a handful of rounds since Ruddock, spent three years in the can and still gave Holyfield a very competitve fight.

Any man of reason has to admit that in 91 Tyson had a LOT more in the tank than in 96 and punched much, much more fluid, yes, he headmovement had declined but he still worked the body/head visciously.

Thare is no guarantee that Evander pulls it off in 91, especially if he fights like the brawling mad man against Bowe 1, as a matter of fact that approach would get him ko'ed.

 

Still Tysons best win followed by Ruddock 1 and 2

 

My favourite knockout by him was Thomas

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You are one sad little man. What Unforgiven has said is very realistic unlike pure fantasy that you nuthuggers create...

 

Holyfield certainly had the power to seriously hurt Tyson, their actual fight proved that unless you want to live in a fantasy world. You talk like Holyfield was in his prime against Tyson when chances are he was past it more than Mike.

 

Holyfield KO 9 Tyson
Lewis KO 10 Tyson
Bowe KO 6 Tyson

But long before Lewis and Bowe got anywhere near he would need to be fed at least 4 stiffs after Holy batters the sh!t out of him.

 

lmao at you putting me on ignore after you found out I tricked you

foxy calls "no mas no mas"

 

Most of them I say positive things about him. I give my opinion. You only see what you want to see. What's your problem ? You come across as a drama queen. You obssession and same old copy/paste critcism towards me is just weird as f--k.

I was the first or second to respond the the 1984 Olympics Tyson thread, and without hesistation I think Tyson would have taken the gold. That was recently. You probably saw the thread anyway. Is that negative ?


Funnily enough, magoo's post on this thread says something similar to what I said but he seems to give Tyson EVEN LESS CHANCE of doing great things again under the circusmstances.
He reckons two straight losses to Holyfield, then a few wins over fringe fighters, and then a loss to Bowe or Lewis.

Why don't you offer your counter opinion ?
Instead of just weird personal critcism and being a drama queen about it.
Perhaps you actually agree with what I wrote.