Latest Eddie Hearn interview, Wilder offer STILL on the table plus NEW Offer

Mr S, Yeah I agree, AJ has the fanbase, the numbers, the profile, he will always be the money.

I understand all that but it's getting on my nerves, the lot of it and both teams.

At the start of all this I went IN, I was with Hearn and AJ 100%, Wilder brought nothing except a devalued belt and was asking too much.

I don't think he is asking too much anymore, simply because if it's your dream to unify the division, to hold all the belts and make some history then Wilder isn't asking for too much considering what AJ will make afterwards with all the belts (assuming he wins).

Hearn has said in multiple interviews in the past about "suffering some paid to eventually get what you want" and all that guff about "long term vision.. blah blah blah" and let's not forget "we LOVE to ROLL THE DICE.."

All that seems to have gone sideways and they (Matchroom) seem to have a problem with everything.

It's gone like this as far as I can see, lots more to it, but roughly put..

Originally Hearn offered Wilder 12 million, it was turned down by Team Wilder, Hearn got lively and said "Well make us an offer then".

So Wilder (assuming Team Wilder too) made a 50 million offer, let's forget all this agree before you sign, it doesn't matter really now, it was offered.

So they got offered 50 million, Hearn has said he didn't actually ask for proof of funds and didn't get them but didn't go as far to say it wasn't there.

Hearn switched again and said "Naaahhhh we want the fight in the UK, we've built something here and we are not throwing all that hard work away"

And then and went and made a counter offer, 15 million flat fee on GGG Vs Canelo date, knowing full well that isn't happening on that date.

So now it's still 15 million but in April 2019, with an offer of another "keep busting fight" for 5 million.


I'm just sick of it now, sign the f'ing contract, take 50 million, go to the states and knock this loud mouth out (if they really believe he is a fraud then just do him).

Come home with the belts, dreams fulfilled and a truck load of money.

 

There is and never was $50Million, it never existed!

You’re right, Hearn didn’t ask for proof of funds, that detail is in a contract and Hearn asked for a contract to examine but also said “we’re very interested” if everything stacks up, but none of it was genuine none of it stacked up.

 

This impression given by Hearn is/was if it's there then yes we will take it.

They should have ripped arms off, gone public and said in principle we agree, I think they did actually but they should have pressed, forced Team Wilder to go very public with the offer.

Call their bluff, because it looks like (in my opinion) they asked for what they didn't think they'd get and actually got it then backtracked.

Hearn seems to have almost ignored the 50million and gone back to saying "we want the fight in the UK".

That looks obstructive and like he doesn't want the fight.


I'm not saying for one second Team Wilder isn't as much to blame, maybe even more but if Hearn is what he says he is and the biggest promoter in the world and the best then he has a responsibility to get this done as far as I'm concerned.


By the way, I want AJ to beat the snot out of Wilder, I'm British, I've always been Team AJ but if they are the two (Hearn and AJ) biggest in boxing then make It happen and stop messing around, force the fight and make a statement.

 

Hearn and Joshua both very publicly accepted the offer and asked for the contract to be sent!
Hearn arranged a meeting and actually went to New York to meet Finkel who then cancelled and rearranged for the following day only to recancel and say there was no point meeting.

Thereafter Hearn ignored the $50 Million offer because it was fantasy, Finkel May as well have offered to have the tooth fairy deliver it in Cinderella’s pumpkin Coach.

Why did Finkel cancel?
Why didnt Finkel immediately fly to London with a contract for $50 Million and storm the Matchroom Office?

 

I deal in facts, or at least try to. You saying it's implicit is conjecture, after previously stating it as fact.

The negotiations that were supposed to be ongoing have never been connected to any particular offer from what I've gathered. The last thing I heard regarding the $50m offer was that Hearn arranged two meetings to discuss it and was ducked on both occasions. After that I don't think he's mentioned it. He has made vague statements saying talks are ongoing as you've stated, and has subsequently gone on to state that a new offer has been made to Wilder regarding a fight in Britain, the talks could just as easily been about this offer. In fact, given that he has said that Wilder accepted these this offer pending amendments, it's far more likely that the talks were regarding this offer.

You attributed this quotes to team Joshua:
the money is there, the offer is real

There is no evidence of this, thus there is no evidence that the offer from Wilder was real and that it was ever discussed.

Eddie Hearn tweeted this in the past week:

https://image.ibb.co/h2WSjo/Screenshot_20180626_235239.jpg

That is him flat out denying there was any substance to Wilder's offer, so it directly contradicts what you said.

Of course, Wilder is saying the exact opposite, so it becomes a game of he said, she said as it so often does in the world of boxing politics. In these instances you go with logic. Who has acted professionally, has made several consistent statements, definitely made verifiable offers along with contracts? Who has achieved more in far few fights, and actually makes unification fights as opposed to talks about them?

The answer here is not Team Wilder. No, with Team Wilder, you have got actual literal ducked meetings, amateurish and childish business conduct and a fighter who just fought his first non-bum in a decade long pro career and who no-one had ever heard of until his name got attached to Joshua's.

Is Fast Eddie a saint who always tells the truth? No. No promoter or businessman is, but on the balance of what's happened thus far he is far easier to back in this saga.

The penny has dropped, even Hearn himself said he is starting to think these guys don't really want it which is just what I said in the beginning, the Yanks look shook. He set up the Spence-Brook fight, where Spence came over to brook's back yard and took the belt. There was no drama making that fight because Errol Spence is not a *****, unlike his countrymen.

 

I don't get idiots like you.


Paying more for the same product isn't something to brag about lol.

 

I don’t pay for it , but since you brag about british ppv numbers , I asked how much is PPV in UK? Because I know it’s really low. If you don’t think it’s important why do you talk about it at all?

 

I haven't bragged about PPV numbers.....

UK PPV is about £15/£20 or $20/$26.


Whilst US guys paid $79.99 for Canelo v GGG...We paid around $22.

 

PPV is not really cheap in the UK, its just really expensive in America.

 

The 50m offer is still a bit of a mystery to me. I wish they'd have been more open to it and seen what caveats Haymon and co. wanted for that kind of money. I'd imagine they'd want a lot but would of wanted to to see it.

 

Agreed. Fury knows what he's talking about.

 

Again I have to agree, it might have been a total lie, I don't know, I don't have access to Team Wilder/Haymons and the other 20 managers bank accounts LOL

It just frustrates me, it's starting to remind me of Mayweather Vs Pacquiao (not comparing the fighters and achievements before I get set upon) but those long drawn out negotiations, both sides to blame and it just causes one pointless argument after another.

I still believe Hearn has a responsibility to make the fight now, he says he is the best, he says he loves to roll the dice, so prove it and roll them.

Also he has this DAZN deal, Hearn said there is huge money floating about, ffs Hearn is talking about giving Tommy Coyle a big fight and big payday, you know there a lorry load of money somewhere when Coyle is on the verge of a decent payday.

Give it to Wilder and make the fight, give the fans what they want and let's get this out of the way because it will just hang over boxing until it happens.

 

I think most people are way off the mark with all this, Joshua has fought the toughest guys possible except wilder, you could even argue povetkin is as tough of a fight as wilder. Eddie, Joshua and maybe even wilders team are trying to build interest in the fight to increase US PPV numbers, simple as that. No ducking going on here the model was proven by may-pac.

 

What is a PPV in the US now? 100 dollar? What that's in pounds? around £75?

Can you imagine if Hearn could get away with £75 a PPV?

Jesus, £75 for Whyte Vs Parker, £75 for Bellew Vs Haye, £75 every AJ fight.

To balance it all out Hearn and Sky would start charging £40 for NxtGen shows.

 

I believe Povetkin is a tougher fight for AJ, I actually believe there is a real possibility of an upset.

I believe Joshua is and has been vulnerable to a left hand and Povetkin has a decent one.