Latest Whyte interview with Kuganz.... Still dont want it with Ortiz! #Ducking

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  1. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let's see Team Ortiz make Whyte an offer he can't refuse, let's see them make Whyte a huge offer.

    If they don't then it can't even be talked about as a "duck" because the position Whyte is in right now. Ortiz is on the outside looking in, he needs to force his way in and that will cost him and his Team a lorry load of money.

    It is not the responsibility of Whyte/Hearn to give Ortiz a payday and an opportunity.
     
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  2. KenBoon

    KenBoon The Marquess of Queensbury's proof reader Full Member

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    No glory in beating up on an old man, unless your name is Windy Miller.
    Windy Miller, AJ and Fury (although in Fury's defence he's always been after both AJ and Windy) want no part of Whyte, far too dangerous.

    Best path for both Ortiz and Parker is to get it on, you can chuck Joyce in the mix as well.
     
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  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Imagine you're a boxer who rejects a fight for the IBF final eliminator and will then cry if you don't get to fight the holder of that belt in April

    If Whyte just wants the highest earning fights, that's perfectly fine. That doesn't tie in with the narrative of being someone willing to fight absolutely anybody at all times. Anyone fights for the right price.
     
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  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Ortiz is a better than Parker

    And Dillian Whyte should have lost that fight, and arguably lost the first fight with Chisora.

    So I don't understand how anyone can comfortably say with confidence that he's done more than enough to earn a title shot when his socalled streak is highly dubious

    Someone got it right on here, there are a host of Whyte protectors who don't want to see their boy challenged. They just want to see him pick up a big pay day a la Rocky Fielding.

    Fans like you make me sick, you put seeing a fighter fight for money above them fighting for credibility.
     
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  5. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is Ortiz better than Parker? His only notable win is against a live boday is against Jennings, years ago, whilst Parker has beaten Takam, Ruiz and Hughie since then.

    The vast majority of this forum believe Whyte deserves a title shot.

    Beating Cojanu and Kaufmann since your loss doesn't earn you a title shot. Beating Parker, Chisora twice, Helenius and browne since your last loss certainly is more warranted of title shot than that. Not even logically debatable.
     
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  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Tell me what top fighter did Joseph Parker beat convincingly to make you think he's better than Ortiz

    Go let me know the impressive emphatic victory he has had that cements him as this great fighter, because I'm struggling to find it myself here
     
  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Parkers notable wins of Takam, Ruiz and Hughie is more impressive record than Ortiz only single notable win against Jennings several years.
     
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  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    That's not what I asked you.

    Stop deflecting and answer the ****ing question.

    I will ask you again

    What top opponent did Parker beat where it was an emphatic victory?
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Takam drew with Perez who was beaten by Jennings.

    Interestingly, neither Takam, nor Hughie, nor Ruiz has a single notable win.

    Jennings beat Perez and performed decently against an ATG heavyweight.
     
  10. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Using your logic and thought patterns..

    Parker beat Takam and Whyte beat Parker.

    Parker performed well against AJ and AJ knocked out that ATG Heavyweight.


    So errrrr Yeah, Whyte is better, doesn't really need to prove anything by fighting an old man with no fans for very little money.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    That isn't my logic. The point of the post is that Parker wasn't very accomplished. Parker never fought an ATG heavyweight champion, nor did Joshua. Parker gets his number called specifically because of how mediocre he is.
     
  12. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte is levels above Ortiz.

    Kingz don't chase peasants.

    Ortiz doesn't deserve that payday.
     
  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    And I was telling you just how mediocre Ortiz is when you olook and compare his resume and look at his best win.. best WIN, not winS because he only has ONE, an age ago and he was probably juiced up to the eyeballs.

    Jennings isn't worth a toss and neither is Ortiz.


    Hang on, Jennings fought and ATG in Wladimir but AJ didn't?
     
  14. HappyClappy

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    Whyte just wants to get paid. Hes earned a big pay day more than most. Ortiz wont bring that cash and Usyk is High risk , Low reward imo
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Jennings fought an ATG heavyweight champion. Joshua did no such thing unless Parker and Charles Martin were ATG.