Legacy: Does Floyd need Pac more than Pac needs Floyd?

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  1. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If Sergio easily beats the winner of Lee-Chavez Jr, and Floyd easily beats Sergio afterwards, I'd give him the nod, and I'm a *******.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Pac needs Floyd

    If Pac beats Floyd, he collects one of if not the very best win of all time.

    If Floyd beats Pac, everybody has been correctly predicting the fight for years. "He has a huge size advantage," "He waited until Pac got old," and "His testing threw Pac off his training."
     
  3. BoneCollecter

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    If Floyd beats Pac the huge question mark (next to the little where he avoided cotto in his prime) on his resume has an exclamation point
     
  4. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal jus another excuse waiting to happen and they know it
     
  5. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wow Shane landed two good shots in12 rounds...shows how great Mayweather is if thats some sort of an accomplishment...round 3 Shane is looking bewildered and getting popped and backed up


    Arum didnt want Cotto to fight Mayweather then, you know it, we all know, only reason it is happening because he left Arum

    Mayweather started at 130 Hatton was a career long junior welterweight....get real dude also Hatton won a belt at 147 before they even fought was undefeated as well

    JMM moved up to fight Mayweather whom he called out, I guess people forget Mayweather started at 130 and is beating welterweights, dude is small as hell past 140 get over it:smoke
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I agree.

    People act like Shane won more than 1 round. He was the #3 P4P fighter in the world and lost 11 rounds, people.

    Cotto turned down a fight with Mayweather in 2006. Straight up declined.

    People who claim Pac/JMM III was even weight wise contradict themselves by saying that Floyd had a huge weight advantage over Hatton. Hatton was 1-0, winning 5-7 rounds off Collazo at WW whereas JMM was 0-1, without winning a single round off Mayweather at WW. Hatton was more accomplished at WW than JMM was going into their fights with Floyd and Manny III, respectively.

    The WW Marquez win for Mayweather will get criticized. I'd say it's a tremendous win being that it barely, if at all, falls in Mayweathers' top 10 victories. And also considering that two years later, that same WW Marquez managed to beat Pacquiao up winning at least 7 of the rounds, and in my opinion 8 decisively. Yet, he couldn't win a single one from Mayweather. Hmmm...
     
  7. pugilistspecialist

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    :deal
     
  8. blai213

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    Legacy wise, Pac > FMJ
    So Floyd needs Pac more than the other way around in terms of legacy.

    However as a fan of both, I believe that H2H if Pac and FMJ fought 10 times, Pac would win 3/10 and May 7/10.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good question and i definitely think Floyd needs Pac more than the other. And history will judge him accordingly IMO.
     
  10. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How can you call Pac's victory over the corpse of Oscar at 147 something special, when it was years after zfloyd had already beaten him at his more natural 154 weight?


    And Hatton was also after Floyd fought him.

    As was Mosely.

    And Margo after he was battered and exposed by Shane.

    And Cottto aftered he was punsihed by Clottey?

    Those are good wins, but let's face it... Pac would benefit much more than Floyd with a victory.
     
  11. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd blatantly ducking Pac
     
  12. Galaxy.

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    Out of the 2 Pac needs Floyd more imo
     
  13. BoneCollecter

    BoneCollecter Warrior Poet Full Member

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    Do you remember the general concensus BEFORE Pac fought De La Hoya?
     
  14. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Both their names, legacies and resumes will be forever lacking without each other. . .

    THey will forever be intertwined with each other, and if they don't fight, it will be a huge black eye for boxing. History will remember them both as "ducking each other."

    Doesn't even matter if one or the other continues to beat world class ass, while the other loses, and fades into history. . .

    They both need each other equally.
     
  15. BoneCollecter

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    not true when one guy wont do 50/50