Legitimate champion or Oaf?

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Is Carnera a legitimate champion

  1. No Carnera is simply a fraudulent oaf

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  2. Yes Primo paid his dues at world level

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  1. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loughran had won six out of his last seven bouts prior to Carnera fighting and beating such fighters as Sharkey, Hamas, Impelletier, Gastenaga and Levinski
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Impelletiere was a 6 fight novice.
    Gastanaga 35-2--0, had lost 3 of his last 5 fights.
    Levinsky had won just 1 of his last 7 fights!
    Hamas beat Loughran twice, once by 2nd rd ko,Loughran was 32 and never that convincing as a heavyweight.
    I asked you on another thread ,why you thought Carnera was such a nice guy? Like to say now?
     
  3. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "mcvey,I know you're not very bright but I should have thought even you could detect that the words," shock result ,"were sarcasm ,obviously I overestimated even your limited intellect!
    You just reiterated what I said do you even realize that?

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    Loughran was not faster than Conn and film of them both will confirm it.

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    Louis did not have over 80lbs on Conn, and they were the same height with only3.5inches reach difference.
    Conn had won his last 19 fights, 7 by stoppage he was bang in his prime.

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    Loughran had lost 5 of his last 12 fights and would lose his next 3.

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    How many people were in the audience for the two Carnera v Uzcudun fights is totally irrelevant to Uzcudun's standing as an unranked boxer challenging for a world title.
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    Uzcudun's prime ,such as it was, was in the 1920's, not the middle of the 1930's when he was 34,he would have 3 more fights after his title challenge win none of them and retire.
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    Jack Johnson has no relevance to this discussion , rather like yourself really.

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  4. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mcvey,You know what you did and so do we , so savour your pyrrhic victory.[/QUOTE]
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    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mcvey,Impelletiere was a 6 fight novice.
    Gastanaga 35-2--0, had lost 3 of his last 5 fights.
    Levinsky had won just 1 of his last 7 fights! Hamas beat Loughran twice, once by 2nd rd ko,Loughran was 32 and never that convincing as a heavyweight.
    I asked you on another thread ,why you thought Carnera was such a nice guy? Like to say now?


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  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Primo was a "closer" freind of mrs Runyon.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I proved conclusively that Johnson signed to defend his title against his three most dangerous opponents Langford twice ,Jeannette twice and McVey once.I gave promoters names, dates, locations, and purses.I also gave the reasons why those fights did not happen.Should you wish to debate that make a thread about it.
    Let me explain something Johnson's opponents were picked by the White public,if he could have made big money fighting black challengers he would have done so.
    You applaud Carnera for making two gimme defences saying," boxing is a business",then castigate Johnson for fighting Jim Flynn and Co for $30,000 a pop.
    Don't you see the contradiction in your stance?
    I was so concerned about this vote I didn't even participate in it ,so how could I be a loser,sore or otherwise? ! Your not in control of your thought processes are you.
     
  8. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "mcvey, You know what you did and so do we , so savour your pyrrhic victory.
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    And the lady in the UK he abandoned and was sued for breach of promise by.

    NB I before E ,accept after C!
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You are not" people", you're a virus.lol
     
  11. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know, just teasin'. Carnera had b-alls in the ring and out. I mean Runyon was a pretty powerful guy in the press and in boxing. Was Mrs Runyon, hot?
     
  12. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mcvey, You are not" people", you're a virus.lol

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  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    She was a blond dancer 22 years younger than Runyon. Not my cup of tea, but I wouldn't say no. She publicly took Primo out on the town but when it turned out she was showing him more than just the sights, the Hearst newspaper group involved Mussolini (who wrote articles for them for $20,000 a time) in an effort to get him to instruct Primo to end the affair. Damon not only took his wife back but he still left his fortune to her in his will even though their marriage had ended years earlier.
     
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He who laughs last never got the joke in the first place!
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    She was the real version of Nick Latka's Wife in The Harder They Fall.