Holyfield was beaten twice, but he wasn't laid out early, there is a difference. Between in competitive fights that go to the cards, one of which was highly controversial against top contenders is quite different than being starched early by what was THEN considered to be B level contenders. Bowe and Moorer at the time were considered top class contenders, McCall was considered a tune up and Rahman is same old glass jawed Rahman. In any event, had Bowe or Moorer KOed Evander early, and I don't mean "stopped", I mean KOed, there would be a different consideration on the quality of those two losses, just like with Lewis.
:happy Lewis is the best heavyweight champion since Ali. Lennox had to beg plead & even SUE to get Holyfield in the ring and when he finally succeeded we had Eugenia Williams pull her famous stunt. Same thing with Tyson, King paid Lennox $4 mil to step aside and let Tyson beat Holyfield first with Lennox getting next shot, they thought it was an easier fight. Instead Evander upset the applecart KO'd Tyson then Lewis was ducked again As for Big Blubber Bowe , he wanted no part of Lewis the Ko in the olympic final Lennox had over him plus the way he destroyed Razor Ruddock scared Bowe shitless he took to the hills even gave up the WBC belt rather than have to fight him. To me Riddick Bowe was NEVER HW champ he failed to see the contract through Lennox Lewis BEAT every man that climbed in the ring with him as a pro give him the respect he deserves:bbb :scaredas: :hi: :bbb :boxing2
Well yes, I do disagree with Zakman sometimes, but generally he's on target with his boxing views and if you'd ever head to the classic forum, many posters have the same set of views, it's just experience... I've been watching boxing for 10 years, he's been watching for 30 years, I know that you Champs are a newer fan and that's a great thing... When you reach a point to where you've seen the highest greatness in this sport, you look at the rest on a rigorous scale in comparison to the greatnes WHEN you are ranking and discussing statistics, the chin is no different... after all of the great chins we have seen in this sport over time, how can anyone claim Lennox had a "good" chin is beyond me. At any rate, there is no need to get mad on here, unless you're dealing with Blocky.
Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield..all 3 great fighters. Lewis got starched twice..so the hell what? He came back like a champion and won both the rematches convincingly. It doesn't matter what you say to Zakman, he will always hate Lewis for tooling Holyfield. In terms of resume, Holyfield probably has the better resume, but you can't blame Lewis for not fighting people like Riddick Bowe. For God's sakes. if Bowe actually fought someone worth while after vacating the belt (instead of fighting Lewis), it wouldn't be so bad. Instead, he fights MICHAEL DOKES AND JESSE FERGUSON!! How blind do you have to be to see that he was obviously ducking Lewis. Was it because of the amateur fight? Maybe, maybe not..only Bowe truly knows why he didn't want to fight Lewis. I personally think Bowe was intimidated by Lewis..I have no idea why because I think Bowe had the tools to beat Lewis..but it makes no sense to me that he vacated his title. And Zakman, what the hell are you talking about..Bowe vacated his title because the money wasn't right? Are you friggin' serious? The money would of been MORE than "alright", why the hell would he wait 2 years? To conclude, Lewis can be both underrated and overrated. However, you can not deny the fact that he has beaten everyone he has faced in the ring. At some times convincing, others not so much. However, you can't always look good in fights. Every fighter will eventually have an off-night in their careers, it happens. Is that the reason why Lewis lost..could be, I personally think he just got caught against McCall and was too overconfident vs Rahman.
Lewis had a glass chin, especially in comparison to Tyson and Holyfield, you can't deny that. Tyson and Holyfield could eat anything at their best, tap Lewis right and the fight is over.
Actually Zakman is starting to remind me of Radar, he twists facts to support any arguement for Holyfield but ignores or disregards facts for Lewis depending on how it suits his arguement.
Exactly. If you look at the era - including the late 80s - and evaluate all the positives and negatives in each fighter's career, it seems astounding to me that folks would rank them any other way. That people don't is exactly WHY Lewis is so grossly overrated by boxing fans today.
To describe Lewis's chin as glass is just ignorant. so I guess the Greatest of the 90's Holifield couldn't break the glass in 2 attempts could he?