Lennox Lewis vs Jack Dempsey

have you also seen some of the comments that he was a tomato can, looked like a child vs Carpeinter, a pub fighter etc etc.

 

Sorry mate, but i consider Louis and Frazier bigger men on average by about 12-15 pounds and close to 20 for Frazier. I believe the gap between 188 pounds and 200+ is substancial (much more so than say 220 vs 240 etc) and is right on the fine line of competitiveness vs big great fighters. I wouldn't doubt Louis and Frazier could have their problems with the Lewis', Bowe's and co but i rate them a much better chance than Dempsey. I really don't think one can bracket Dempsey with those two.

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this is by far the silliest post in this thread, atsch i could pick apart virtually every point you made

 

What's that got to do with what i was saying? lol

 

No all i am saying is that some people do not religously pick him over any heavyweight, and even guys like Janitor( who regularly defends Dempsey) picks someone like Louis to beat him, and so far i dont think i have ever seen a poster who picks him to beat everyone.

 

Well lets use the 213 pound Louis that beat Walcott and the 217 pound Frzier that shupped Stander.

Frazier and Louis are quite simply the naturally bigger men.

 

Why are you so keen to artificially lessen the weight gap between Louis and Frazier? The simple fact of the matter is that Dempsey's best/common fighting weight was oft around 188'ish. Frazier and Louis are naturally bigger men for mine. Maybe the 197 Dempsey knew he had an easy opponent and didn't train to peak fitness, whatever. I see it was a KO1 over a guy with no record at all recorded so i can't imagine a spartan camp.

 

Louis was not prime when he beat Walcott, That Louis could have lost to Dempsey imo. Slower hand speed, and foot of couse. During the pre war years Louis was about 200 or so pounds. Maybe 205 at most.

 

True, but that's not the game.

 

Look when you get older, you gain weight.

Ali had a belly in his later years as a fighter, of couse no one needs to mention Johnson's weight problem when he battle Moran and Willard. Not to say they were not in shape, they were still in shape. But for there age and body weight, they got a bit over weight. Which is comman for older guys.

Arnie is growing a belly if I recall lol.