Lennox Lewis vs Larry Holmes

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  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No its not BC Tyson's speed is far greater than Foreman's while there's really no advantage in a Holmes vs Lewis jab which isn't really the issue here....its Lewis physical strength over Holmes and being a better inside fighter which will enable him to grind out close rounds if need be.

    Odds are great that a Lewis vs Holmes is a competitive fight...not so much for faster , more accurate better defensive fighter Tyson over Foreman.
     
  2. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bump for Mark Ant …. this is who Holmes should be matched with
    Anyone else who hasn't weighed in ??
     
  3. HOUDINI

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    Holmes wins the jab battle and outboxes Lewis over the distance for the decision win. Holmes was the better classic boxer, would keep the bout at distance, and befuddle Lewis. Holmes by a decision 9-6 in rounds.
     
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  4. Sting like a bean

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    I'd have Holmes, but not by that wide a margin.
     
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  5. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He actually seems to me like a nice guy beneath the chip on his shoulder. The nicest celebrity I've ever met (not that there have been very many) is undoubtedly B.B. King. (Of course, I'd just told him that Live at the Regal would be on my desert island list, so I guess he would have been disposed to be nice.)
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Close decision for Lewis courtesy of a KD for me.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    Lewis, UD12

    Lewis is the better puncher here, and is the much bigger and stronger guy he is also very explosive with imo the higher ring IQ.

    Holmes is a bit quicker but is smaller. He has the better chin and jab with pretty equal footwork and was technically more sound than Lennox

    I think Lewis manages to land a fair few jabs on Holmes, not as many as Holmes would on Lewis but a fair few, Lewis and Manny would know to time Holmes jab with a cross and to follow up with an uppercut or hook, then clinch
    This would drain Holmes and deal damage whilst gaining points for Lewis, I suspect he will be doing this in a fair few rounds and Holmes's jab winning the ones this isn't effective in. At some point Lewis will hand with the right and I think after being drained and leant on all night Holmes goes down, this would give Lewis the win for me

    Close but Clear win for Lewis
     
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  8. Big Ukrainian

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    Higher ring IQ? How that? Look at prime Lewis' fight against 36 y.o., 1-year-inactive and 3-year-winless Ray Mercer and compare it to 42 y.o. Holmes' fight against 30 y.o., unbeaten and active version of Ray Mercer. Holmes clearly had MUCH higher ring IQ comparing to Lewis.

    I think Holmes would beat Lewis by UD in 12-rounds fight and would stop him in 14th in 15-rounds fight.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

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    That's against Mercer, Holmes with his jab was made to beat Mercer, Mercer is all wrong for Lewis

    Lewis with Manny was a very smart fighter and could dominate an opponent like no other, he knew how to beat any opponent he faced whilst he was with Manny
    And that's probably what it comes down to, Manny being the brains of the operation
     
  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    The pre-Steward Lewis would have gotten jabbed silly and probably stopped within 12.

    The post-Steward Lewis....the one whom actually discovered he had a good jab...that I'm not so sure on.
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    The Holmes who peaked against Ali would have landed the right hand again and again. The 90s Lewis would have gotten knocked silly, not out but staggering around the ring (like so many of Holmes' title defenses).

    Again, not so sure about the post-Steward LL though.
     
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  12. Rspen46

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    I have seen most of the fights of these 2 that are available and Hlolmes is faster, quicker better on his feet, and if hurt, recovers very well to win fights. I think Larry wins a comfortable UD after a few hard fought early rounds, once he settles in and Lewis realizes who the better fighter really is, and he knows unless he KO's Larry it's over, that's when Larry cruises to a UD.
     
  13. Oliver121

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    I think lewis will find his jab early and slowly start landing power punches off of it, although it would be close with holmes troubling lewis with straights while backing up. I see lewis winning but larry holmes' toughness taking him to the end

    Lennox Lewis wins by UD
     
  14. Cobra33

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    I actually think Larry stops him.
    Lets not forget nobody stopped a young Holmes.
    He faced Shavers when Shavers had something left and while Shavers dropped him Larry got up and stopped him.
    Mercer troubled Lewis with his jab and Mercers jab isn't in the class of Larrys.
    And while I think Lewis is the better puncher of the two Holmes right-hand is fully capable of stunning Lewis who was stopped TWICE by right hands.
    I think it would be a good fight of course but see Holmes getting the better with the jab and Lewis walking into a right-hand that hurts him. And if he gets hurt Holmes finishes him where if Holmes gets hurt I can see him gutting it out as he did a couple of times.
    Holmes TKO10 Lewis.
     
  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    I can see this happening, though mostly to an early-to-mid era Lewis. The more careful, later Lewis I see losing a decision, and widely.