Lennox vs Vitali, explain or just vote

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  1. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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    a cut is part of boxing, especially when caused by a punch

    lewis won because he did more damage to vitali,
     
  2. Bazooka

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    That was after the fight, after the winner was announced after he knew for sure it was over basicly it was an act, not really an act but he made it clear he wanted to continue.
    Lewis did collapse in his stool sure, which is why I said you cant really say weather or not Lewis would have knocked him out, but what you can argue is that the cut would have gotten worse in the 7th and that would not have helped Vitali at all no matter how much he had left in the tank.
    and even though Lewis never scored a TKO after the 8th round in his entire life, that doesnt mean he wouldnt have in that fight, we know that when fights have gotten ruff when Vitali has had injuries he has a history of quitting as well, so you dont know what would have happend had it continued.
    I still dont understand why The klitschko fans are still all over this fight? it was years ago, they are upset becuase Lewis chose to do the right thing and retire with his marbles still intact, its insane especially when you look at their excuses when Vitali decided to hang them up, they were saying the same thing, he may as well retire for his own saftey and health yet Lewis isnt allowed to do the same?
    I just dont get it, There are rules in this sport every fighter knows that if a cut happens and its a bad cut the fight can be stopped, Lewis beat the man with in the rules of the sport and he is the man getting bashed for it, I just dont ****ing get it
     
  3. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What we saw actually was Lewis hitting vitali during the last round and vitali trying to hold on. After the bell who cares! During the round Lewis was on top and vitali couldnt defend himself or throw any punches back, he looked out on his feet at the bell as he took another uppercut as he tried to hold on.
    Promised a rematch? When did he "promise", there is a difference between talking about the possiblility and "Promising".
    "Stupid doctor", "cat scratch!." Those words display your childish hate.
     
  4. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no he didnt lol, he sat down from the position he ended the round in in that corner then straightened himself up, big deal, it was after the bell! The point you should be looking at is who was still punching while the round was in progress and who was trying to hold on and unable to defend or punch. Vitali was like a frozen statue as he tried to hold on at the bell.
     
  5. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That display from VITLAY at the end of the fight was just smoke and mirrors. Basically he acted tough when he knew the fight was over and Lennox wasn't going to hit him no more. Pathetic when you consider that VITLAY was ready to quit anyway if the doctor hadn't stopped it.

    Notice he didn't even protest when the doctor said he was going to stop the fight, he only had his hissy fit once it was all over :roll:

    What a bum.
     
  6. Ilesey

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    A previous poster summed this fight up in a nutshell.

    Lewis TKO 6.

    :hi:
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Two points:
    1) Lewis was the smarter fighter and was pacing himself. Vitali continued to shoot his load. Lewis was investing with hard and heavy shots which were taking their toll on Vitalis stamina, body and face.
    2) Lewis punches brought about a stoppage. This wasn't one freak cut. This was a systematic butchering of Vitalis face. It got progressively worse. Vitali didn't adapt to it. Surely he didn't think they would just let it go on.
     
  8. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't undertsand the controversry with this fight. Vitali lost by TKO. The cut was bad enought to warrant a TKO and what caused the cut? Lewis's fists.
     
  9. Gabriel R.

    Gabriel R. New Member Full Member

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    I don't know, but I believe the knockout would have come soon, while I don't know who would have settled it. The chances were pretty equal for both fighters. Vitali was on a mission that evening and appeared almost unstoppable, but like Lennox, he also was damaged and exhausted. So everything could have happened at that point of time.

    From the poll I can't chose any option, but I give big credit to Vitali. Until the stoppage, he was the slightly better man in a balanced fight.
     
  10. ChampionsForever

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  11. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    It's hard to believe that Vitali would have won that fight, unless you sincerely felt that he was on the verge of knocking out Lewis within the next two rounds. If the fight were allowed to continue, the cut would have gotten worse and the fight would have been stopped anyway, barring a knockout by VK.
     
  12. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Lewis fought a very uncharacteristic but necessary fight to defeat a guy that fights tall and moves well for his height. Because he had to go out of his comfort zone it made him look vulnerable and he got hit a little more than he often does, but it was effective and he was breaking Vitali down round by round, and was really close to stopping him if the fight would have continued.
     
  13. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just watched the fight on youtube. (I'm pretty sure it was the whole fight, the video was in German which I don't speak and had "Rockey" music).
    If the videos I watched did not show every minuet of every round. I did not time the rounds to see if what they showeed was 3 minuets. They also switched to black and wite close ups. If the video was edited I would think that it being in German the editing would favor Vitali.
    That being said I thought the first two rounds were kind of sloppy espicialy the first. The next three rounds Vitali seemed to and first and more but Lennox also landed shots of his own. I didn't bother to keep score, but I would give a slight edege to Vitali. He was hardly domating like some people might suguest.
    Should the fight have been stoped when it was? I'm not a doctor so I could be wrong about this but I'm pretty sure you dont get a cut like Vitali had with out getting hit. I think he could have gone on, but with Lennox targeting it and makeing it worse the fight probbly would not have gone past the eighth round. Unless Vitali's cornor were able to fix it something they were not able to do sense the third round when it opened up.
    What were to happen if the fight were to contune will be debated for a long time.
    My opionion is that Lennox would have targeted that cut making it worse and worse. Vitali having to protect it would open up more opitions for Lennox. Lennox probbly would have taken the lead on the score cards in the 9th or 10th round and winning a decision or a 11th or 12th round stopage. If Vitali's corner were able to fix the cut if not the result would have been Lennox by TKO in the eighth round or between the eighth and ninth rounds.:bbb :rasta
     
  14. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Lennox had the momentum at the end but give Vitali credit.
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Vitali does get credit, but not as much as the nuthuggers are expecting I am sorry it just dont work that way, in fact I think he is getting too much credit from a ****ing loss when the **** does that ever happen?