Leonard Ellerbe : Bob Arum's misleading public

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  1. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Thank you

    Thank you

    yeh he is
     
  2. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Huh? I thought Manny said they could have all the **** they wanted? Each side is giving their fan boys cover. How many of you really TRY and discern the facts?
     
  3. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    im a 'mayweather fan boy' and yes they can **** all they want

    manny just dosnt want his blood taken :tong
     
  4. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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  5. Hermit

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    So that would be a NO to my question? :yep
     
  6. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Discerning fanboys? Get ****ing real, man.
     
  7. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    This went up on Roger's Sportsnet here in Canada a couple of hours ago.

    It states that Mayweather had already agreed to a 14 day cut off on testing before the Mediation got underway. Arum and Pac are ****ing Jokes. Honestly, tell me right now whats wrong with a 14 day cut off? Nothing plenty of boxers get blood drawn 14 days out from the fight.

    [url]http://www.sportsnet.ca/more/2010/01/07/mayweather_pacquiao/[/url]

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. blamed Manny Pacquiao for the collapse of their prospective bout Thursday, claiming the Filipino boxer refuses to accept a reasonable compromise on drug testing concerns.
    Mayweather also says he's still ready to sign a deal for the fight, which was slated for March 13 at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas before Pacquiao promoter Top Rank declared it dead Wednesday night.
    Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) made his first public comments about the negotiations in a written statement that began with Mayweather saying he's "thoroughly disgusted" by Pacquiao's representatives' attempts to blame him for the collapse of what's likely to be the richest bout in boxing history.
    "In my opinion it is Manny Pacquiao and his team who are denying the people a chance to see the biggest fight ever," Mayweather said. "I know the people will see through their smokes screens and lies. I am ready to fight and sign the contract. Manny needs to stop making his excuses, step up and fight."
    The sides went to mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica in an attempt to resolve the drug testing issues that are the only remaining conflicts in the negotiation. Mayweather's demands for frequent blood testing beyond the Nevada Athletic Commission's requirements -- and Pacquiao's reluctance to agree to those requests -- have derailed the bout.
    Mayweather initially demanded repeated blood testing right up to the day of the fight, while Pacquiao asked for a 30-day cutoff before the bout. Mayweather now claims he agreed to a 14-day cutoff compromise before the mediation session began, but Pacquiao still wouldn't accept those terms.
    "The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests," Mayweather said.
    Pacquiao has filed a lawsuit alleging Mayweather and most of his representatives, including Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, defamed him by falsely accusing him of using performance-enhancing drugs.
    Top Rank boss Bob Arum was brutally frank about his former fighter on Wednesday night, telling The Associated Press that Mayweather is "a psychological coward who doesn't want to fight anybody who has a chance of beating him."
    After generating stellar pay-per-view revenue from their previous fights, both Pacquiao and Mayweather likely stood to make much more than US$25 million apiece from their welterweight bout. Mayweather returned to the ring after a 21-month absence in September with a victory over Juan Manuel Marquez, while Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) pounded Miguel Cotto in November for his 13th straight victory since 2005.
    Pacquiao is widely considered boxing's pound-for-pound champion, an unofficial title held by Mayweather before his aborted retirement. Their proposed fight was seen as the biggest moment in boxing since Mayweather's split-decision victory over Oscar De La Hoya in May 2007.
    Daniel Weinstein, the retired federal judge who oversaw the mediation, also issued a statement Thursday saying little about the actual discussions.
    "In the end, the parties could not agree on a testing protocol acceptable to all," Weinstein's statement read.
     
  8. Hermit

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    OK. I really didn't think that would fly. Hell, my post count would be over 10K if I allowed myself to really get dragged into these threads. Both promoters are doing what promoters do. Covering up the fact NEITHER of these guys really want this fight.
     
  9. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Boxing, last I checked, is also an athletic sport. If you can improve your athleticism it will only make you better.
     
  10. Phatdub1

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    U can think alot better when your not worn out, and u still got alot of energy
     
  11. Hermit

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    I haven't followed this that closely, but are there really things that the urine testing won't catch that the blood will? The guy in charge of the Nevada State Commission seemed to think not and it is his job to enforce/know.
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NOBODY that used the good stuff was caught with urine. Nobody. Look at all the guys in baseball. Marion Jones was never officially caught in a test. None of them popped on urine. Sugar Shane Mosely never popped on urine either. He will take urine all day because he KNOWS HE CAN BEAT IT!!!

    Damn will you try and discern the facts?
     
  13. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    oh from the first post.... thats copied and pasted moron...u really think id write all that?

    thats from a website....link is given....copied straight from there...
     
  14. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Certain forms of blood doping can only be detected through blood. Also, blood can be stored longer for later testing as new tests become available in the future.

    The guy in charge of the NSAC wouldn't tell anybody if their testing protocol is ****.
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Thinking will get you farther and PEDs don't give new brain cells.