Let's Hear It For Sugar Ray Leonard.

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm sure if Leonard had any more fights I could name that much more the way he was going. What was his record-was it 36-3-1 or was it more like 35-5?

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  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice.

    Haugen W12 Camacho

    Lewis KO2 Bowe

    Hearns KO4 Roldan

    Mullings KO9 Norris
     
  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sure if Leonard didn't have any pride or self respect he could've feasted on the Craig Houk's or Otilio Villarreal's of this world and fattened his record 65-3-1 ala the mighty Macho Man.

    He could kiss HOF status goodbye but it would keep him in steady drug and bail money just like Hector.

    Maybe if he'd followed this career path of underachievement Ol' Rooster might've even warmed to the kid.:D
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Leonard v Hearns I. I think everyone would agree Hearns won the first 5 rounds, not by decisively knocking Leonard all over the ring during each round. But he was coming forward aggressively, landing jabs, and out-working Leonard. The odd right hand connected on Leonards chin as well. Competitive rounds, but Hearns clearly.

    13 rounds were completed at the time of the stoppage. So If Hearns won the first 5 rounds, he would only have needed to win 2 of the last 8 rounds to be ahead. However depends on If someone scores the 6th and 13th rounds 10-8 for Leonard, which is possible. If memory serves me correctly Hearns did take a count during the 13th round. I might be wrong.
     
  5. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you say Bruce Finch, Larry Bonds, and Ayub Kalule? Did you say Don lalonde? Did you say......two titles in one night? Uno mas? :lol: a rubber match ten years in the making. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I didn't think so.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Rooster. While I'm not a fan of Leonard, his accomplishments in the ring are of the highest calibre. However I do agree that Leonard winning the two WBC titles against Lalonde was a farce to say the least. He got special treatment from Jose Sulaiman on that occassion, no question.

    As I have said before, I'd be embarrassed with such an achivement on my record.

    Pretty simple: Winning two world titles from two seperate divisions in one fight you could call cheating.

    While fighters like Hearns and De la hoya won WBO titles at super-middleweight and super-featherweight, they did win titles in 5 divisions by winning them against 5 seperate opponents, the same can't be said of Leonard.

    In my opinion only one fighter has legitmately won titles in 5 different weight divisions, counting the three major sanctioning bodies. WBC/WBA/IBF.

    Floyd Mayweather

    1. Genaro Hernandez. WBC super-featherweight title, 1998.

    2. Jose Luis Castillo. WBC lightweight title, 2002.

    3. Arturo Gatti. WBC light-welterweight title, 2005.

    4. Zab Judah. IBF welterweight title, 2006. Carlos Baldomir, WBC welterweight title, 2006

    5. Oscar De la hoya. WBC light-middleweight title, 2007.
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not bad but nothing quite tops Camacho KO 5 Ray Leonard :!: :vonnecunt :toney :tdh
     
  8. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tarver KO2 Jones.

    Checkmate!:D

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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Ooooooooooooooo, he saved the killer blow for last! Well played, and congratulations on your resounding victory!!

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  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not even close. Camacho ko 5 Leonard is the most gratifying knockout of our lifetimes. Remember, leonard thought he would actually beat Hector. So did you!
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was his killer blow?? Hell, that tickled! He should feel embarassed :oops:
     
  12. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Finch,Bonds,Kalue,and Lalonde are a full head and shoulders above the garbage that Camacho chose to fight later on in his career.

    Uno mas ? Seven years later Camacho fought an even older,slower and fatter Duran and still struggled.When Leonard fought him the third time Duran was coming off a great win over Barkley,by the time he fought Camacho the only thing he'd won recently was a seniors discount.

    You've once again displayed the patented Rooster double standard when it comes to Leonard,and you've left yourself wide open to it yet again.:yep
     
  13. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Ha ha. Nice work Kasparov. :good



    "Got any excuses tonight Red?" :yep
     
  14. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excuses for what? You're lame!
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    :rofl