How can you even compare what Joshua did to what Fury might do ? Fury does everything better than Joshua,Fury may lack in power compared to Joshua but Fury can punch all round every round and that is something Joshua has never been to do as well as Joshua’s other well documented flaws. Anybody that had followed Usyk knew he would beat Joshua .
I scored Fury-McDermott I five rounds a piece — its reputation as a travesty of justice is very overstated, though O'Connor's scorecard was abysmal — but, all the same, it was a tough fight that Fury was very close to losing in my estimation. It was tough to an extent that is relative to the level Fury was boxing at as a green professional not far removed from his teens. I believe that Joe Joyce would provide Fury with the most physically gruelling test of his entire professional career. One that the 2009 version of Fury would've been nowhere near ready for. The domestic gut check of the green prospect doesn't really bear comparison to the career-defining championship war of the seasoned professional.
Fury was sloppy and slow with anobody with decent speed and boxing skills. Usyk is best version of any HW that can box, move, create angles and have 15 rounds stamina with the same workrate in the past 20 years. I believe Usyk will outbox him and make him look like a fool that he is. No dirty tactics will work against Usyk, he is just too experienced and have Higher boxing IQ, than any other HW boxer of 21 century. There is nobody with Kronk style that can beat Usyk.
maybe. We'll see. But one thing's for sure is that Fury will be able to hit Usyk. Usyk isn't as unhittable as people think. He's been well hit by All opponents he's faced in his heavyweight career. Chazz could hit him, Chisora could hit him, AJ could hit him. Search up what his face looked like after all those fights. Usyk is quite a lot more hittable than people on here are saying
My own post on the subject: Fury-McDermott 1 Sky Sports’ punch stats had Fury landing 104 of 570 to McDermott's 114 of 334 over 10 rounds. If even approximately accurate this immediately undermines the robbery narrative (highly competitive wars that go to the scorecards are inherently inconclusive) especially if McDermott was more dominant in the rounds that he won. Further, if you throw 236 (71%) more punches than your opponent then it's almost certain that many more are landing but only partially or weakly and a judge cannot always clearly see whether a given punch lands, exactly where it lands or if it lands with “sufficient force”, from a particular angle, on the inside or in rapid combination, so he has to use his judgement to determinate whether to score some attempts. Fights are scored in real time, not post-fight on video. These facts raise philosophical questions about scoring as fighters are in practice rewarded for throwing greater volume, partly because of the issue of judgement but also because the fighter throwing punches is making the fight, expending energy and taking the risk of being countered. Povetkin and Chambers landed virtually the same number of clean punches according to Compubox (201 vs 197) and they had Chambers outlanding Povetkin in 7 of 12 rounds but Chambers only threw 398 punches to Povetkin’s 928, which was probably at least partially responsible for the 9-3 and 11-1 official verdicts for Povetkin. The consensus on Eyeonthering is that Fury won 6 of the 10 rounds, 5 clearly: https://eyeonthering.com/boxing/john-mcdermott-vs-tyson-fury The consensus on Boxrec is that Fury won 96-95: https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/1433340 Furthermore, McDermott turned his back on Fury twice in the 10th round while absorbing punches, at one point running away! The Scot Jim Watt even commented that McDermott could lose points for it (and it's technically a DQ-worthy offence) after saying “whichever way this goes”, implying that the fight was in the balance. If we’re lenient and just deduct a single point, Fury only needs 5/10 rounds to win 95-94, revisionism works both ways. McDermott overperformed expectations as a 7/2 underdog, was David to Fury's Goliath, was coming forward more, was fighting in his hometown, had lost two close/controversial decisions to Danny Williams in his previous two fights (which were for the British title) Irish Gypsy Fury was broadly disliked at the time, most of the hype and tribalistic support in Britain was behind the 2008 Olympic bronze medallist David Price, the commentary was atrocious and the scoring was too wide, hence the robbery narrative. Johnny Nelson stated just before the rematch that McDermott said he'd lost the first fight in the last two rounds. Considering that 247 lbs Fury had just turned 21 and was a 7 fight pro novice with only 35 amateur bouts and 11 pro rounds completed, 9 months into his pro career, stepping up to British title level in his first 10 rounder (having never gone past 4 rounds previously, whereas McDermott had completed 108 pro rounds and had gone past 4 rounds on 10 occasions, including two full 10 rounders and two full 12 rounders) against a determined, 253 lbs, 29 year old, 9 year and 30 fight pro veteran with 16 KO’s that Fury underestimated, it was an impressive performance. Fury could have fought more club fighters and padded his record but instead he was tested very early on, which gave him valuable experience for the rest of his career. It’s implicit going into the fight that the undefeated young prospect with great potential marketability and the ability to go on to become a world champion who is stepping up in levels and taking a risk will get the nod in a close fight over a little-known veteran with multiple losses who reached his apex at domestic level. This is because a bad result for the prospect could derail his career and permanently damage his reputation and marketability, with no comparable upside for the veteran or the boxing industry.
Fury wins for me. Too big, too strong. He also beats AJ as he's too skilful for him. The fight I'd like to see is Fury-Joyce.
Contemporaneously, the controversy of the McDermott bout was an outlet for the 'I hate that dirty pikey ****' crowd. Latterly, it's transcended its provincial/sectarian beginnings in becoming a mythical stick for the disparaging legions of Fury's critics to beat him with. If Terry O'Connor had simply turned in a reasonable scorecard, 95–95 or a point either way, the fight wouldn't have acquired the reputation it did. The referee's godawful score was the travesty, more than the outcome of the bout per se. There was some suggestion that O'Connor's verdict was strongly influenced by lingering bitterness over having been knocked out by Stan McDermott in the late 1970s. It should be noted that there was no crying or complaining from the Fury camp when he didn't get the nod in a close amateur bout with David Price, wherein Fury registered a knockdown that went unrecorded—on the contrary, Fury visited Price's dressing room to congratulate him and shake his hand. When he had victory stolen from him in Los Angeles in 2018, he took it on the chin and resolved to take the judges out of the picture in the rematch, putting himself in the jaws of the lion to enact a strategy that most observers had decried as a suicide mission prior to the bout. Things haven't always gone Fury's way. He was never the golden boy and the road up was hardly a smooth one. But he's always gotten on with it regardless.