Beating Mayorga in impressive fashion would give Forrest instant notoriety. Spinks and Alcine are beatable. I still wouldn't call this a HOF career. He needs to beat another elite fighter before he gets that kind of love from me.
Im sorry but he has a win over mosley when shane mosley was #1 p4p. Not everyone in the hall of fame has a harry greb or muhammad ali resume. If he cleans 154, hes in the hall of fame.
Perhaps. I don't care about that in particular so much as I wanted to stress that there's two fighters he has unfinished business with - everybody was making it sound like wiping the slate clean with Mayorga would leave him spotless...
Forrest fought Ike with one hand, there is no need for a rematch. :good He may have been "lucky" vs Quartey but he was "unlucky" against Mayorga II so it all evens out in the end.
DLH will never take him on, and Dzinziruk will never leave Germany to fight him (not would Universum put him up against Forrest), so I fail to see how he could clear out the division if he can't face two of the other best fighters. It helps if he beats Spinks, Alcine and Julio, but even those seem doubtful to me at this point. That said, if he does get and beat DLH or Spinks, it helps him considerably. I doubt anyone else at 154 will be remembered as a great fighter, so I'm not sure beating anyone else helps his legacy significantly.
i dont care if he doesnt avenge the mayorga losses, because everyone has that 1 guy that they cant beat, but the ike fight really bothers me... I say he cleans up 154 if he can.... which id love to see him do, then give ike a rematch... and i still see that fight as 50/50
Well, with the politics in boxing, even if Forrest were able to beat all other title holders, it would still take him more then a fews months. I'm pretty sure all interest will be gone, not even sure if Ike will still be fighting in that much a time. If Forrest wants to fight Ike, now is the time.
That's assuming that Quartey opts to keep fighting, and that Forrest is still a titleholder. Even then, it's likely that a rematch wouldn't take place till 2009, and given Ike's inactivity, it probably wouldn't mean as much as it once did. Having stated that, Forrest can still earn his ticket to the IBHOF for sure by defeating Alcine or Spinks, or, optionally, by defeating some top-tier contenders like Simms, Williams (who I'm certain will come up to 154lbs sooner or later), et al. If he somehow is able to secure a fight with DLH, and beats him more convincingly than PBF did, that helps his cause, too...but I'm not holding my breath. Still...any fighter who handles SSM as conclusively as the Viper did in their first fight is going to be given consideration for the HOF by the time his career is finished.
indeed drew... i agree with you. Hell if he just beats spinks to me he should go in, being a champion, and having beat mosley and spinks.. thats a good ****ing career imo. i was merely stating what id like to see him do... though i would want ike to win the rematch, but like you say... by then its a completely differant fight and i doubt they will ever fight again... seems like ike retired?