Lewis v Jeffries?

Wlad was a master at his style.

Give him a lenient ref and a smaller foe and it really is gonna take something special for him to lose.

 

Not sure who Dozy is

But boxing participation has massively increased since the early 1900s, allot of boxing talked about how much it increased since the Dempsey era and how much more money people thought they could earn boxing.

So that talent pool grew, the competition grew, the know how grew.

The boxing know how from the 1900s into the 1940s is huge if you look at the skills development.

Seriously look at the progress for world records in running, arguably the oldest sport ever.

 

Mendoza.

I get all the technical improvements. I know anyone who refused to brawl him would likely outbox him.

I'm on about those who stand toe to toe with him. Surely that negates any evolution or progress because then it's just man for man, punch for punch.

 

Have you seen athletes on roids vs that same athlete without? Roids do so much to allow faster recuperation between workout so you can work harder and longer. Add to this that today's hwts training for 12 rounds max would need to train for 20 plus round fights. So without roids training for much longer fights and much longer fights with different fight conditions they would be very different fighters. So much more going on here and to think about with these mythical match ups.

 

Not sure why people just can't accept that fighters of yesterday specifically at heavyweight are at a clear disadvantage compared to the top echelon of todays fighters. Guys like Fritz wouldn't even be allowed to compete in the heavyweight division today, never mind be a world champion. I just think the competition at heavyweight was fairly sp**** and that the upper echelon fighters were good for their time, but wouldn't be close to competitive in todays era.

Nobody would even know how to fight the likes of Lewis, he would make normally huge fighters such as Johnson and Jeffries look very small, and unlike Willard it wouldn't be a rusty old man they would be fighting. It would be a 6'5" powerfully built trained athlete, who's skills were simply far superior than anyone elses in that era.

Does that mean that Lewis automatically wins? No because in boxing when too punchers step into the ring there's always a punchers chance that the worst boxer could loose, but it's extremely unlikely, and all that happened is those worthy champs of yesteryear are denigrated because they are wrongly being compared to the skilled giants of today, rather than being appreciated for who they beat at the time.

This is why these type of exercise is pointless.

 

I thought you get that from wrestling, which is why many MMA fighters have it. And I've read that Jeffries wrestled in training. But I just read that some boxers can get it too.

 

Lots of boxers get broken noses many of them even continue to fight after getting their noses broke.