Lineage in today's climate

Pat O'Grady once created the WAA as his son Sean was walking from the dressing room to the ring for a welterweight "title" fight.

 

It could destroy the sport as well; all hell would break lose trying to put a universally acceptable criterion together to make a 'linear world champ' and so I suspect there would be none and thus the whole sport would be 'blacked out'.

 

I'm still not clear on the 122 pound title lineage.
Can anyone list them ?

 

Riasco lost to
Kobayashi who lost to
Yum who lost to
Gomez who lost to
Meza who lost to
Pintor who lost to
Payakaroon who lost to
Fenech who lost lineage

Since then there has been no establishment of a universally recognized linear line.

 

Thanks.:good

Apparently (according to lufcrazy) Rigondeaux is/was linear champion, so perhaps he somehow established a new line. But I'm not sure how that's possible if the concept of lineage is being ignored.

I consider myself fairly hardcore purist in some of these matters but I really don't have much motivation to protect the fabled lineage of a pointless minor division that was fully invented only in the 1970s at the whim of the alphabet organizations anyway.

Personally I'd preserve the concept of lineage for meaningful divisions with prestige, the old traditional seven or eight divisions. And even then I can see points where the lineage became meaningless (due to so many retirements, etc.)

 

So Donaire v Nishioka established the latest line in October 2012.
Rigondeaux won the title a few months later, April 2013.

I'm not impressed. I'm not even sure the division should be recognized as worthy of a recognized world champion though.
If we're going to insist on linear champions, ONE champ per division, let's get rid of the pointless divisions at the same meeting.

 

As for Quigg v Frampton, I thought it was British or European title or something.

 

Yes, you are clearly right. The lineage clearly finished with The Bazooka.

The other claims have certain merits to them, particularly if they claim to be the best rather than linear, but after Gomez there has not been a Lineage champion.

 

Like a 'TBooze lineal champion'; first and second rankings are 'just' opinion. A lineage world champion is in boxing always an abstract concept...

As shown by the 175lbs linear, which although some same Stevenson, it could be argued the Hill/MaskeI lineage is still be broken and thus Andre Ward is champ...