Liston vs Marciano?

With todays ref's the fight would have been stopped as soon as the injury happened lets not kid ourselves. Furthermore I think most modern fighters in that predicament would not have any argument with that ,Marciano would have been incensed. Any great fighter on a given day might beat another imo. So there is no certainty about the outcomes of head to head.

 

I think he'd be given a round. His corner done a good job on it and there was no blood.

Vitali's face was hanging off and he was given a few rounds . He knew he had to do something but he couldn't do it.
Thats why Marciano is a top 5 ATG and Vitali isn't even a top 5 eastern European.
When The Rock was faced with defeat , the beast kicked in. Liston can't tame that beast.

 

The Rock beats everyone and anyone.

Hardest puncher ever.

I almost take him against the best two heavies ever at the same time. I need to think more on this one.

 

It's been said before...Marciano's nose was split open down to the bone against Charles in the 2nd fight in 1954...yet he stormed back and kept the title with a KO...Liston QUIT on his stool against Ali in 1964 in Miami...and then was KO'd by the "phantom"...(ahem)...punch in Maine in 1965...

 

Maybe you should read what I wrote.atsch

On the subject of jabs...
There are two types of jab. A step in jab and a step off jab.

A step in jab just puts you too close to the mauler and is exactly why Joe Louis had so much trouble with Godoy in their first fight.

Marciano slipped jabs better than Albert Westphal.

Liston threw step in jabs.

 

I know. Can you list them?

 

No way this goes the distance, somebody is getting stopped. And I wouldn't feel too confident putting my money on a guy who quit twice inside 6 rounds as opposed to a guy who got off the canvas twice and overcame horrible injuries to never lose a single fight. Marciano is no Patterson, he sucks up a bad early beating to either stop Liston or force him to quit.

 

Prime Liston walked through Williams punches to ko him twice . There's a good chance he could take Marciano's shots ,imo. Could a man who was dropped by a 38 year old and a 42 year old take his? :think

 

Ah, great fights. I don't think Liston got the better of the exchanges if memory serves, I tihnk in the first match he even got rocked and bloodied, he took over once he established the jab on the taller up right Williams.


Those two shots are putting anybody down, not sure I can say the same for Ali's early short right:

That same Walcott sneakcut nearly killed Ezzard Charles.

Moore was actually estimated at 39, was in the middle of his greatest run, and possibly had the best right cross in history. No shame in going down to that punch.

 

First you say Liston quit then you imply it was genuine punch that ko'd him, which is it?
Moore's mother said he was 42.

Moore 's right cross the best in history ? No point continuing:hi:

 

-No, the first paragraph was talking about the Big Cat fight. I said Big Cat bloodied and rocked him.

-Most every source these days pegs him at being born in 1916. Doesn't matter at 42 or 39, in 1955 he was the LHW Champion and the clear #1 HW contender whlie on the strongest run of his career.

-Why be a dick? I would never be so bold to proclaim any punch without question the best in history. I said "probably" as in its "in the discussion" Moore's right cross had enough power to hurt anyone from MW to HW and he had the IQ to sneak it in on anyone. Its certainly in the talks with the best single weapons utilized by an all time great.