Loma and p4p misunderstanding

I'd feel like an absolute ***** if i claimed it was an unfair fight based on that if I'm talking to someone who competes in the same weight class and is the same height as me how about yourself?

 

I'm a fanboy, yet I say the injury wasn't the deciding factor in Loma's loss? It seems you don't even know what I've posted about, and are just going on assumptions.

Here's the truth about P4P that maybe out haven't figured out yet... IT MEANS NOTHING. It's just fan fiction on who's the best when combining all weights. Some guys can move up and win. Some cannot. And that has NOTHING to do with fanboy P4P mythology, because that so-called P4P criteria actually depends on what age they did it, what class they did it from, where they were in their careers, what their natural size was... According to you, all that is equal among all fighters apparently. Body shape (meaning size, frame, structure) DOES matter in a fighters ability to move does weight to weight. Is that foreign to you??

Should everyone who started at 130 have the ability move to MW because ODLH did it?

Should everyone who started at 105 or whatever be able to fight at JrMW because of Pacquiao??

I guess you think everyone who started at 154 should realistically be able to fight at HW just because RJJr did?

You over-analyze too much for a P4P discussion.... Guess what, P4P means NOTHING but to make fanboys happy

 

A lot of words to say nothing relevant to my post really. I get it, P4P and the nonsensical and often countless and different criteria everyone used means a lot to you. Cool. Your questions you ask then immediately answer are all on you. Cool!

 

Until you see them in the ring

 

Im not not giving Lopez his props.. I ate a big piece of humble pie and did a topic about it... But where are you getting your figures from... Lopez being 140 in the ring? Pull the other one... And as someone who boxed you should know that if two guys spar and both are world class and one is bigger than the other more often than not the good big man will beat the good little man.. There are extra things you have to think about.. There punches take more from you, its more mentally fatiguing having to have that concentration where you know you can get your lights turned out if you slip up.

Lopez was better than I thought he was.. Lomas display in the second half of the fight shows me he could possibly win a rematch.. It also shows me he could easily get himself knocked out

What's your obsession with shoulders ffs... Lopez is bigger.. Look at the guy next to loma in the ring... If you think Lopez weighed 140 in the ring then your off your tits

 

Yes you do that's exactly what your saying.. A guy in a weight division steps Into a new division... That's now his division... So even though its his 3rd weight class... His skill should still be able to overcome fighters in that new class despite weight advantage.


So by your logic though.. The pound for pound number one should never lose at all to anyone ever then if p4p number 1 can overcome any size discrepancy.. Cos as they step into a new division... They are that weight right.... So when roman gonzalez was p4p number one his skills should've overcome everyone... The guy should be twatting Crawford by now.

Face it mate.. Size plays a part whether you like to admit it or not... No one is ever gonna say iran barkley was a better fighter than Tommy hearns... Yet barkley has two wins over him because even though Tommy had all the physical dimensions in the world over him.. Barkley was a naturally bigger much stronger guy... Size matters

And in all your above examples you've used a good fighter against a bang average fighter in a higher weight class... Lopez isn't average

 

Was it more Lopez being better than you thought or was it more Loma just underperformed well below expectation?

 

I knew Lopez had power and speed over lomachenko but he showed extra facets to his game I didn't know he had... He fought a great fight and deserved his victory.... When loma let his hands go and started touching teo up he looked mentally a little fragile but even again in the last round he showed something I didn't know he had and he but down and hurt loma... It was a great performance.... Lomachenko I think was far too cautious early...if the shoulder things true that's his own fault for going ahead with the fight

 

I thought Lopez was significantly heavier in the ring, but it doesn't same to be the case according to his manager either... https://www.dazn.com/en-NZ/news/box...rn-to-ring-by-march/a76bw4wl8x4e17unp29c77jx1

 

There is a reason why a 22 yo lopez who hasnt filled out yet is moving up to 140. And also a reason why a 32yo loma has filled out and at his max weight of 135pounds. By the time lopez is 32 dont be suprised if hes fighting at 154plus.

Lopez is clear as day bigger than loma, has a bigger bone structure which can hold more muscle mass. Is mike tyson bigger than roy jones? **** yeah.

 

And so you should.

 

Well, I think the point is Lomachenko's limit was found to be at a far lower threshold than numerous greats of the past, and far lower than all the Lomachenko fans and media hypesters were estimating it to be.
Teofimo Lopez is a good fighter but not a great fighter yet (he may become one), and he was too much for Lomachenko.

Lomachenko has spanned 126,130, 135 : three divisions but only 9 pounds, and has apparently found guys who are too much for him.
And as others have stated, it's okay saying "but Lopez is huge for a 135 pounder", but the other side of the coin is that Lomachenko faced some opponents at 126 and 130 who were similarly "far smaller" than himself. It evens itself out. He's spanned nine pounds and that's as far as he'll go, it seems. That's a fine record but doesn't compare with what some of the recent ATGs have done.