Loma ATG

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  1. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Yep, that's what ATG lists are, people's opinions.

    The HOF isn't what it use to be either, I mean I loved watching Gatti fight, but he isn't a HOF caliber fighter.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    His skills weren't even good enough to beat old AF fighter with no defense, and a young untested fighter.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    He was very famous, so how did Gatti not belong there?
     
  4. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On pure ability, he's top 10 ATG.
    On resume, probably 100-200.
     
  5. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    HOF is suppose to be reserved for the best of the best from their time, that was never Gatti.
     
  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    HOF and ATG is Ottke, he was undefeated as a pro.
    All other boxers are not better than Ottke.
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I always thought the Hall of Fame, was for those who acquired much 'fame".
     
  8. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I guess JCC Jr. is a shoe in then.
     
  9. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    His fame comes from his father who is already in the HOF.
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Not sure how famous he is. At one time he was very popular amongst Mexicans, but I think his last fights have been at school gyms.
     
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  11. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The great Ottke. Undefeated. Untied.
     
  12. The Akbar One

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    If the skills only work against lower tier opposition are they really all that great? Loma is a guy who looks spectacular against guys who are limited in skill and athleticism or guys who are shrimps. As soon as a little skill is added to the opponent that is his size he no longer looks spectacular. Linares, Tank's son, Campbell, Lopez etc.
     
  13. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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    Bro he was good enough to beat teo. They were separated by a round. If boxing isnt scored per round, you can make an argument that loma kicked teo's ass, but thats not the case.
     
  14. IsaL

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    I personally had it a draw. But that's not a win, and losing to old Salido and someone like Lopez is not ATGish imo.
     
  15. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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    Bruh that salido fight was so ****. Salido refused to make weight and came into fight night 19lbs overweight. If that wasnt enough, Salido hit Loma with like 100 low blows, which the ref didnt even bother calling, he only called 2 low blow penalties and no points were taken. BUT THATS NOT ENOUGH, cuz in the 12th round loma hit salido with a straight left that would have put him down... BUT THE DUMBASS REF decided to save salido by calling a hugging penalty on Loma when it was salido who was clinching.

    Thats not to mention all the head butts and (maybe inadverted/maybe dirty) foot stepping by Salido. Fact of the matter is, that fight had asterisks peppered all over it. But loma took the L. But its not as bad as people suggest it is, because he looked like the better fighter that night.