Loma ATG

He fought Salido in his second bout and did extremely well. For example Roidquez (considered an ATG) lost his first match against a can.

 

WTF were you watching brother!?! Loma, to my eyes, is past it. Previous damage probably exacerbated in camp, thought he still had enough and wanted to fight, but couldn't put a dent in Lopez let's be fair.
The top boys at 135 can and will punch through Loma, he doesn't have the legs to 'Willie Pep' his way to victory over 12. He might be able to match-make well and shoeshine his way to a well received swansong but he's well over the peak and fading fast imo.

 

Entertaining. Now appears that Loma had fought low tier opposition in pro ranks.
If it is true statement, then it is shame on US boxing elite cos he fought for titles. It is amazing how low tier opponents according to Loma haters might had belts and / or had been considered as enough highly ranked and valuable fighters worth enough to fight vs Loma.
Of course pro boxing is more amusement and entertainment industry nothing more and still.
Claims how bad Loma was and how low level opposition he had in pro ranks only urinate on US pro boxing scene, their belts and cotenders not on Loma, like haters might dream.
Claiming that pupp like Lopez who is nothing more than disciplined weight bully at 135 lbs weigh in limit might be even close to greats?
Nope, he isn't and never will be like Oscar or PBF. Nope.
Then how cool is US pro boxing if journeyman Salido might had belts and how damn high livel dirtyboxer Salido had reached.
WoW, it is not allowed to lost fight? I agree, Ali had lost, Patterson had lost, Foreman, Holyfield, Frazier, Tyson, Holmes had lost.
Nothing wrong, DLH too had lost fights. Lewis had lost, Pacman etc worshiped greats.

Loma of course should be valued with dual standards usage because he is from Ukraine, this makes hate cos: how someone might had afforded to reach american dream: to have mortgage and business without debts. Dear God, it is offense and evil. He is not from US and therefore must be bad, unskilled, poor and like this.

 

He doest really warrant ATG discussions tbh.

At a push you might say he's one of the most gifted to ever fight at FW/SFW but even that's a stretch imo.


To sort this out he'd need to beat Teo in a rematch and beat the other contenders at 135 to flesh out his reign.

But even then you'd be talking lower reaches of greatness, he's probably already past his best by now and I feel. ATG conversations just aren't a realistic goal.

Gifted boxer, yes.
Goat amateur, maybe.
ATG boxer, nowhere close.

 

It really depends what stuff you call GOAT amateur rules boxer.
There are 3? boxers during all world's history who had 3 Olympic Gold medals.
Loma had 2.

ATG is imaginable dream created by US pro boxing fans, therefore ATG always will be only US boxers.
No one else needs to be considered as ATG or discussed, only US boxers and their fans.
For others this is empty noise worth.
Btw HOF too is nothing more than empty noise for normal ppl outside of US. I agree that HOF matters a lot in US, no offense. You are not in US? No one will care, are you in HOF or are not.

 

I do not agree that Teo had clearly dominated Loma in any from these rounds. Nonsense.
1 st round: Loma does almost nothing, there is clear round for Lopez.
2 nd round: very close 55/45 round for Lopez.
3rd, 4th, 5 th rounds for Lopez with 0 doubts here. Still not so clear dominating.
6 th round: 55/45 round for Lopez.
So there till this point 6-0 for Lopez with 2 damn very close rounds.
7 th -11 th for Loma without clear dominating.
12 th: 60/40 for Lopez.
Lopez had better gas tank for one last minute in this round, was more active and aggressive, therefore I had scored this for Lopez with total score card from me 115:113 for Lopez as a winner.
Close fight.

 

He's a shoo-in for HOF purely based on how fast he became a 3 weight world champion. Whether we think his resume and longevity (lack of it) doesn't meet the threshold or not, he'll go in there for that alone

 

Cool, you have your view, round by round, idgaf. Outside of the minutae of the scoring, which I don't care to debate, here's what I saw:
A physically outmatched Loma got involved in the pocket early and found out quick he couldn't mix it. He then went 'survival' mode and regained footing in the fight. He mounted a champions fight back and tried altered tactics to give himself the best chance of winning. He layed it all out for the last round to get a 10-8 or KO but it just wasn't there and he, again, got battered in the pocket.
I think his legs and general body are deteriorating and he's basically a 'David Haye' waiting to happen imo.
I have loved watching him box in recent years and he's a fantastic talent and role model, but the Lopez fight was hard to watch for me because Loma just ain't got it anymore, not at the impeccably high standards he's set for himself.
Anything other than a run-out against a stylistically inferior fighter will end up tarnishing his legacy imo.

 

I said this in 2019. I continue to stand by this. No one currently fighting except Pac is an ATG. Will most of these men enter the HOF? I believe they will. But they all have much more to do to be considered ATGs.

 

Probably number 92 for now. He should Tank but he will get knocked out and Haney could beat him whereas Ryan Crybaby Garcia will quit and call him Nomaschenko.

 

Tank ducked Lomachenko.

 

When Tank stops him you can say that again.

 

Your boyfriend is already leaving any division near Loma. Go ask Unki

 

Tank will only fight a washed Lomachenko.

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