Loma is undefeated P4P number 1.

If someone can name me the Top 10 P4P from 2004 off the top of their head (within reason) then that will prove that P4P actually has meaning or value (it doesn't)

If someone can name the championship belts George Foreman held at any given point in his career that will prove to that plastic championship belts actually have meaning or value (they don't)

The only thing that matters in boxing is who you beat, when you beat them and how you beat them and beyond all that whether it was a god damn good fight that you will re-watch every couple of years for the rest of your life, which is why fighters like Gatti & Ward & Fury & Wilder will remain historically relevant for the rest of modern boxing history.

and yes my brain may be small but my testes are large and humbling.

 

lol

 

Honestly having watched it at least twice I can't find a way for Loma to get any kind of result

He lost rather than Teo actually beating him

Strange proformance and one I was shocked at

 

To his credit I'm certain he did at least make his case for a draw and a win at the time

 

I get what you’re saying and I’m a huge Loma fan myself. But I still say Usyk is PFP#1 and will further prove this when he boxes Fury’s love handles off in Feb. The fact Usyk is doing what he is while being 220lbs going up against guys 20-30lbs bigger than him is something nobody else in the sport can say they’re doing.

But as far as sheer skill… Yeah Loma is no doubt top 3 in the world and has been for the last 6-7 years. In my opinion the ONLY guy that has an actual legit claim of defeating him is Teo. But there were factors that led to the loss for Loma in that fight that I won’t bother getting into. I personally think Loma edged it based off the fact he landed more meaningful shots than Teo did. But Teo has a legit claim. BUT… he ducked the rematch. And honestly that fight could have been scored a draw. Very easily.

One thing is for sure NOBODY has “Whooped” Loma or even come close. And if you combine all his amateur accolades with pros, he’s had a legendary career.

 

I rewatched round 2 a couple of times last night and honestly it can go either way, just depends what the judges like more. I counted Lopez landing 5 punches in the first minute while being the aggressor, while Loma landed nothing at all. Second minute of the round hardly anything happened, i think i counted 3 punches landed for Loma and 2 for Lopez. Loma's flurry in the final few seconds of the round made it close, i think he landed 3 punches and Lopez landed one. Giving round 2 to Lopez is entirely reasonable since he was the aggressor for most of the round. Lopez also landed some good punches in that round, they just weren't as eye catching because Loma was moving backwards all the time away from the power.

 

Nope. 3 losses.

 

Lopez 12 UD.

 

I just watched round 2 again and I'm actually laughing my ass of right now.

Lopez lands a few nice body shots and a few head shots get around the guard of Lomachenko.

Lopez is the aggressor as Lomachenko did absolutely nothing for 2 minutes, Lomachenko lands one decent counter shot at 2 minutes into round, and then they both have a little exchange right at the end of the round and that's that.

A clear round for Lopez he was the aggressor, landed more punches, absolutely no chance Lomachenko won that round who was circling ring throwing no punches like he was in a sparring session.

Get over it.

Lopez 115-113/116-112 no controversy you don't win fights throwing 13 punches a round for half the fight, show me another example in a championship fight where a fighter has won with that output.

Finally all 3 judges scored the 2nd round for Lopez, and punchstats were 11 to 5 in favour of Lopez so enough with your slow mo BS.

 

I don't particularly care about your subjective view of what counts as a punch ''of note'', u can argue how clean they are but they got through, they are landed punches. All legally landed punches are of note, they count when scoring a round. Lomachenko tried to steal the round in the final seconds after doing almost nothing for 3 minutes while moving backwards and being walked down, and the judges didn't buy it.