To end this debate once and for all as I keep asking @MismatchHypejob. Show me another example in a championship fight, where a fighter averaged 13 punches thrown a round for half the fight and got the decision ? I mean that right there should be a pretty big clue on why Lomachenko didn't get the decision. Infact I think all 3 judges had Lomachenko losing first 7 rounds, and as I said none of them gave him the 2nd round, and it's not like Lopez was the A side here. Lomachenko was the P4P king and was highly favoured to beat Lopez. Lopez won a fair decision end of no controversy.
Yeah that’s not what happened. Body shots land on the elbows and I’ve already accounted for the body shot. The head shot does not “get around “ the guard of Lomachenko. Now you’re just straight up bullshitting again refer to my actual post where I’ve timestamped things. Jesus Christ Lopez landed **** all himself he was following him around the ring hitting air and elbows . They were both doing **** all Again go back to my time stamps debate each one . No he absolutely didnt. You’re literally being dishonest End this debate? I’m the one debating you’re not . As if you’re acting like the one who has actually properly gone through the rounds lmao Jesus. go back to my time stamps then come back to me
He lost to Lopez because he waited too long to start fighting. Second half when he woke up and started landing for fun… was too late
And I don’t particularly give a damn about your woeful response that doesn’t even slightly touch upon the punches landed that were clean which I have specifically timestamped and you have failed to adddress one by one. Clean punching is scored - Loma objectively scored the cleaner punches as I have timestamped. How exactly were the judges scoring it? 4 criteria Ddefence - Loma (outlanded Lopez and made him miss) Effective aggression - Lopez? Yes effective aggression = missing punches and get outlanded with cleaner shots Ring general = Loma picked Lopez with clean purposeful shots whilst making Lopez miss and unable to land clean punches. Ring generalship doesn’t mean just following a guy around the ring Clean punching = unequivocally Lomachenko can you at least agree that punching elbows arms and gloves is not clean punching? Otherwise there’s no point continuing
What a way to downplay it. Again go back to my time stamps. Lomachenko lands a clean two lefts at 2 minutes into the round. Lopez has at this point landed nothing clean but elbows shoulders and gloves. Loma also lands a jab. little exchange right at the end . Lmao you really can’t concede can you. Loma landed a very clean 3 punch combination at the end of the round. I’m repeating myself straight left right hand straight left. Each punch rocking Teos head back. Teo panic left hook partially landing, looks like it hits with inside glove (not clean) How the hell can you say Lopez outlanded Lomachenko I’ve literally timestamped the punches lmao count them landed the far cleaner work
I've already addressed your clean punches bollocks so there is no need to repeat myself again. If a punch partially gets through and the judges score it, what are you gonna tell them, ''derrrrrr you can't count that punch that landed, it didn't land clean enough for my liking''.
I don't need to look at your timestamps because you're clearly biased and your "view" on what you deem are relevant punches are "irrelevant". I watched the round again Lopez was the clear aggressor landed the most punches in the round, as Lomachenko was circling and throwing no punches throughout the entire round apart from a brief flurry at end. The stats were 11-5 in favour of Lopez for punches landed, none of the 3 judges scored the round for Lomachenko so again your points are "irrelevant". And finally again answer the question when has a fighter ever won a decision in a championship fight averaging 13 punches thrown a round for half the fight ? the fact you have no answer for it speaks volumes and that pretty much ends the debate. But you can keep waffling on and coping on all you want it makes no difference. Lopez 12 UD.
If Loma can only scrape a draw on your card by giving him a highly debatable round 2 it's not much of a robbery is it?
The 4th, 6th and 7th were all quite close as well. Sure Loma did **** all for many of the early rounds, but Lopez landed **** all in most of them as well. So if people want to give Mayweather credit for the 5 shots he landed per round against Hatton, and not give Hatton credit for his 50 missed punches per round. Then why doesn't that standard apply to Loma?
Okay you’re not here for actual serious debate. Just let me know if you ever get round to watching the round properly and addressing the timestamps
In rounds such as those where it's hard to split them in terms of landed punches my preference goes to the guy who's applying pressure and throwing more, even if he's missing most of them, because it's better than circling around the ring doing nothing.
You have still failed to address the timestamps and now you’re deflecting calling me biased even though you can’t do such a simple thing. I’ve timestamped that Loma landed the cleaner more frequent shots. you’ve said: And finally again answer the question when has a fighter ever won a decision in a championship fight averaging 13 punches thrown a round for half the fight Lmao you’ve ended the debate not me. This is simply you deflecting and moving around the question. This question is not relevant for scoring rounds 2 and 6 to Loma..like at all and I’m not sure why think this ends the debate. What you’ve stated can be true at the same time as Loma landing cleaner punches in rounds 2 and 6 - which is what he did. If Loma throws 13 punches in round 2 and lands 6 whereas Lopez throws 25 and lands 2..who wins… come on mate **** argument the fact you’re using that as an argument tells me the foundation of your whole dishonest point is being held up by matchsticks
Mayweather was averaging 25 punches thrown a round not 13 like Lomachenko. Hatton also only threw about 50 punches more overall than Mayweather, and Mayweather almost doubled him in punches landed overall. In comparison Lopez threw 659 punches to only 321 for Lomachenko which is a staggering 2 to 1 difference, Lopez also landed over 40 more punches than Lomachenko. It's not the same and Lomachenko was far too inactive and theres never been a fighter in history that I know of that won a championship fight by decision averaging 13 punches thrown a round for half the fight. Lopez won by being the aggressor and forcing the fight whilst landing the most punches overall, Lomachenko looked like he was in a sparring session for half the fight.