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Loma: "Maybe Inoue at 126"

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Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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Where is @JOKER I haven't seen him since the ban

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Ph33rknot, Apr 5, 2023

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I would love this

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I'd be surprised if it happened. Inoue hasn't even fought at 122 yet so any talk of 126 is premature to say the least and could Loma even make 126lbs anymore while he's a small light weight that doesn't mean he's still able to make that weight where he hasn't fought at for nearly 8 years. Right now Loma/Inoue is a pure fantasy fight.

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Another dream fight that could happen, but Loma will be at least 37

senpai, Apr 5, 2023

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This has been talked about since 2019, pre-covid, pre-Teo, pre-war

Fact of the matter is, if Loma wants to sausage about @ 126 then maybe he can do mean things @ 130 instead. As it is, I prefer Loma punching above his weight

Loma more likely to fight Shakur than Inoue anyway. Plus Loma smashes the bloke. I don't think Inoue could even beat a legit 126 champ, only the weaker ones... maybe

WDEFAR

fruitandnutcase, Apr 6, 2023

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Rumsfeld said: ↑

I doubt he'd be very effective there, but he could probably still shrink down to 126.
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Right, history isn't kind to fighters who attempt to go back down in weight

Reinhardt, Apr 6, 2023

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Ph33rknot said: ↑

Where are is @JOKER I haven't seen him since the ban
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Heard he got into an accident

ellerbe, Apr 6, 2023

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Reg said: ↑

One of my biggest boxing pet peeves is when an interviewer asks Fighter A about Fighter B and fans say Fighter A is obsessed with Fighter B when all they are doing is answering the questions they get asked. Happens way too often.
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Exactly. Look at what happened when 3G was simply asked about a fight w/ Floyd. Virtually every single fanatic decided they HATE 3G and was chasing a smaller guy. That's all it took.

The Real Lance, Apr 6, 2023

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Heard he got into an accident
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Hope he's good

Ph33rknot, Apr 6, 2023

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Serge said: ↑

The hate Loma receives still, to this day, is insane and it's not only insane but he gets accused of doing things that are a complete inversion of reality and by the fans of fighters who literally are some of the worst culprits of doing these exact same things.

Just some of the crap I've read today

''Loma is the king of pulling smaller guys up. I would love to see Inoue have Loma convulsing on the canvas. Download THAT you **** sucker.''

He's only done so once, against Rigo who begged for the fight, as did his fans, who waged a protracted campaign on social media trying to goad and humiliate Loma to fight him and accused him of ducking him like crazy and predicted he was going to destroy Loma and expose that hype

The only other fighter who came up in weight to fight him is Marriaga and he weighed 2lbs less at 126 than Loma did at 130

''Back to being the bully again''

''LOL. In other words let me fight smaller fighters again ala Rigondeaux, Gary Russell Jr & Inoue''

He's very rarely been the bigger man in terms of weight, has only had a significant weight advantage twice, has been the lighter man most of the time, has been at a significant weight disadvantage like 11 times, has only had a reach advantage once IIRC, has been at a significant one loads of times, been giving away a significant weight and reach advantage in many of his fights, so much so no other fighter in the P4P top 10 is giving away the kind of physical advantages he is routinely and that includes Clenelo and Usyk who has only had four fights at HW. Even for almost all the fights bar a couple where he did have a weight advantage it was only by 0.5 or 1lb or so

Loma at 135 is giving away way more weight than Clenelo is at 175

GRJ 138lbs - Loma 138.5lbs

But Floyd and Manny moved up more divisions doe

They keep comparing him to fighters who turned pro in their teens and ignore the fact that he was 25.5 y/o when he turned pro and when he was like 17 was all the way down at the lowest weight division in amateur boxing same day weigh ins

'Atomweight (also referred to as light minimumweight, junior strawweight, junior mini-flyweight and pinweight'

Lightweight is like 8 or 9 divisions above that weight IIRC

And both Floyd and Manny are bigger than Loma and I'm not talking about height. Floyd also has a huge 72'' reach advantage and was very rarely at a reach disadvantage, let alone a significant or huge one like Loma often is. Manny weighs about 10lbs more than Loma

Yes Floyd fought a three division heavier Clenelo at a catchweight and who he had a inch and a half longer reach than

But Loma is fighting a fighter next who not only weighs three divisions more than him next, who has a near 6'' reach advantage on him, is slick, and in their country very likely with a home ref and three home judges

''Yes, Lomachenko got some sick enjoyment at beating up on teenagers for years.''

Everyone he fought in his first Olympics, World Amateur championships, and European championships was older than him

The respective years of birth of Loma and all of the opponents he fought in major championships as a senior amateur

Loma born in 1988

2007 World Championships

1987
1985
1977
1985
1982
1986

2008 Olympics

1986
1985
1982
1986
1983

2008 European Championships

1986
1987
1985
1986

2009 World Championships

N/A
1989
1990
1990
1987

2011 World Amateur Championships

1990
1992
1988
1991
1984
1989

2012 Olympics

1991
1993
1989
1984

This is coming from Rigo fans who begged Loma to fight him, spent months accusing Loma of being a coward and ducking him, picked Rigo to destroy him and then when Loma toyed with him like he was a rank novice they acted like all the words that came out of their mouths were spoken by other people and all we heard were excuses about size and how Loma still to this day ain't fought anyone even though his resume craps on most of their current favs

From Haney fans who has literally never fought a champion close to his size and who is much/way bigger than all of the ones he has fought, even the only prime world champion who was a champ at 135 he fought.

From Twink and Spence fans whose resumes are full of fighters dragged up in weight or who came up in weight. You can't make this **** up. He's routinely doing things their current favs have literally never done or only done rarely but they're crucify him for doing things he's rarely done and they do often
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What a post!!!
Couldn’t agree more.
I love Monster and Loma but to imply Loma is a weight bully is absolutely asinine, especially as he is about to fight one of the youngest, biggest, fastest fighters in the lightweight division…
I don’t understand anyone who slags Loma or Monster. I’ve been around this game for 45 years and got to see the primes of the four kings and yet I still appreciate guys like Loma and Monster.
I consider it an absolute privilege to watch these masters at work and will be very sad when they decide to stop.

A lot of fans really suck balls these days…

weepaul, Apr 6, 2023

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Reg said: ↑

One of my biggest boxing pet peeves is when an interviewer asks Fighter A about Fighter B and fans say Fighter A is obsessed with Fighter B when all they are doing is answering the questions they get asked. Happens way too often.
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Spot in. Happens all the time.

kirk, Apr 6, 2023

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Serge said: ↑

He was merely asked if he would consider facing Inoue and he just entertained the notion of doing so after the interview said it would be a really interesting match up.

And had he said no the Inoue fans would've accused him of ducking him. And they're the ones who keep saying Inoue knocks Loma out and keep trying to prop up Inoue be crapping on Loma for some strange reason. Like it's not possible to be a fan of and respect both, especially given they're both great, likeable and two of the few legacy fighters in the sport and there's no good reason to dislike them

They also keep claiming that Inoue is fighting opponents who are way bigger than him even though that is not the case.

The fact that Inoue rehydrates more at his third weight, fourth from the one he started out at, than Loma did at his first weight, weighs about 7-8lbs less than him and has a 2'' longer reach than him even though they're five divisions apart says it all.

Loma is actually fighting opponents who are not only much bigger than him but are much bigger than him than he is Inoue

Could the Inoue fans kindly draw up a list of all the opponents he's fought who weigh one, two or three decisions more than him and who hold 2 to almost 6'' reach advantages over him?

I'll give you one

1. McDonnell
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LOL Serge living in a bizarro world liking 2 fighters at the same time? What is wrong with you. Round ESB, we don't take kindly to folks admire'en more than one fighter at the same time, specially if they close to the same division. Understand?!? Now take that big city talk outta these here parts.

Braindamage, Apr 6, 2023

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Serge said: ↑

The hate Loma receives still, to this day, is insane and it's not only insane but he gets accused of doing things that are a complete inversion of reality and by the fans of fighters who literally are some of the worst culprits of doing these exact same things.

Just some of the crap I've read today

''Loma is the king of pulling smaller guys up. I would love to see Inoue have Loma convulsing on the canvas. Download THAT you **** sucker.''

He's only done so once, against Rigo who begged for the fight, as did his fans, who waged a protracted campaign on social media trying to goad and humiliate Loma to fight him and accused him of ducking him like crazy and predicted he was going to destroy Loma and expose that hype

The only other fighter who came up in weight to fight him is Marriaga and he weighed 2lbs less at 126 than Loma did at 130

''Back to being the bully again''

''LOL. In other words let me fight smaller fighters again ala Rigondeaux, Gary Russell Jr & Inoue''

He's very rarely been the bigger man in terms of weight, has only had a significant weight advantage twice, has been the lighter man most of the time, has been at a significant weight disadvantage like 11 times, has only had a reach advantage once IIRC, has been at a significant one loads of times, been giving away a significant weight and reach advantage in many of his fights, so much so no other fighter in the P4P top 10 is giving away the kind of physical advantages he is routinely and that includes Clenelo and Usyk who has only had four fights at HW. Even for almost all the fights bar a couple where he did have a weight advantage it was only by 0.5 or 1lb or so

Loma at 135 is giving away way more weight than Clenelo is at 175

GRJ 138lbs - Loma 138.5lbs

But Floyd and Manny moved up more divisions doe

They keep comparing him to fighters who turned pro in their teens and ignore the fact that he was 25.5 y/o when he turned pro and when he was like 17 was all the way down at the lowest weight division in amateur boxing same day weigh ins

'Atomweight (also referred to as light minimumweight, junior strawweight, junior mini-flyweight and pinweight'

Lightweight is like 8 or 9 divisions above that weight IIRC

And both Floyd and Manny are bigger than Loma and I'm not talking about height. Floyd also has a huge 72'' reach advantage and was very rarely at a reach disadvantage, let alone a significant or huge one like Loma often is. Manny weighs about 10lbs more than Loma

Yes Floyd fought a three division heavier Clenelo at a catchweight and who he had a inch and a half longer reach than

But Loma is fighting a fighter next who not only weighs three divisions more than him next, who has a near 6'' reach advantage on him, is slick, and in their country very likely with a home ref and three home judges

''Yes, Lomachenko got some sick enjoyment at beating up on teenagers for years.''

Everyone he fought in his first Olympics, World Amateur championships, and European championships was older than him

The respective years of birth of Loma and all of the opponents he fought in major championships as a senior amateur

Loma born in 1988

2007 World Championships

1987
1985
1977
1985
1982
1986

2008 Olympics

1986
1985
1982
1986
1983

2008 European Championships

1986
1987
1985
1986

2009 World Championships

N/A
1989
1990
1990
1987

2011 World Amateur Championships

1990
1992
1988
1991
1984
1989

2012 Olympics

1991
1993
1989
1984

This is coming from Rigo fans who begged Loma to fight him, spent months accusing Loma of being a coward and ducking him, picked Rigo to destroy him and then when Loma toyed with him like he was a rank novice they acted like all the words that came out of their mouths were spoken by other people and all we heard were excuses about size and how Loma still to this day ain't fought anyone even though his resume craps on most of their current favs

From Haney fans who has literally never fought a champion close to his size and who is much/way bigger than all of the ones he has fought, even the only prime world champion who was a champ at 135 he fought.

From Twink and Spence fans whose resumes are full of fighters dragged up in weight or who came up in weight. You can't make this **** up. He's routinely doing things their current favs have literally never done or only done rarely but they're crucify him for doing things he's rarely done and they do often
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You're not gonna see any Loma hate from me. He's one of my favorite active fighters, never once called him a weight bully and I'm rooting for him to pull off the upset against Haney. I just figured it was silly to even entertain the idea of a Inoue match up down the road since it's impossible for it to happen but I understand that he was just answering a question where he can't say no without people thinking he's ducking. Still not sure why any interviewer would be asking Loma that kind of question knowing full well that is just not plausible.

Flo_Raiden, Apr 6, 2023

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Braindamage said: ↑

LOL Serge living in a bizarro world liking 2 fighters at the same time? What is wrong with you. Round ESB, we don't take kindly to folks admire'en more than one fighter at the same time, specially if they close to the same division. Understand?!? Now take that big city talk outta these here parts.
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Indeed, Floyd and Pacquiao fans, take note.

RJJFan, Apr 6, 2023

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ellerbe said: ↑

Heard he got into an accident
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For real?

Hope he is doing OK?

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