Lomachenko on Mikey's performance, and doing additional weight training

If Mikey's confidence has taken a dent since the Spence fight, someone like Lomachenko is going to beat him comprehensively because he is an apex predator who will eat someone who is lacking self belief.

 

I don't think Mikey has good advantages in his prospect fight against Loma, especially after his adventure to the land of welterweight. Not only going back to 135 lbs would be a seriously hell of effort for him, it also would also cost him a lot of work to re-adjust his technical aspects, especially his speed and movement. Mikey is a physically strong boxer, offensively and defensively. But he is not fast. Against Spence, even he couldn't be faster than his bigger opponent. How could you attack your opponent if he is quicker than you ? It's a very simple question. Mikey has good eyes of seeing an opening and make a precisely timed punch. But have you ever thought what if his opponent has a good pair of eyes and technically superior as well ? FYI, Spence is not faster and technically better than Loma.

As a closing statement, have you ever watched martial-art movie "Ip Man 3" ? Mike Tyson is there and he has fight scene there. There's one quote from him that I find quite interesting. It was before he faces the protagonist. He said : "let see whose fist is fastest, yours or mine" . Of course, maybe it's just a movie. But it really makes sense. Why ? Because Tyson is a heavyweight and his opponent there is way far lighter than him, but him being big, strong and powerful would be nothing if he is not fast enough to lay his fist on his opponent.

 

mikey stops loma in 8. salido, linares-cano, davis-pedraza, are all clues of the levels we are dealing with. mikey stops all those dudes no problem. loma could very well win, but his performances at 135 do not reflect that. and he knows this, hence his admitted need to get stronger there, at the risk of losing some of what makes him so special. if he thought his package was enough for the job, there would be no need to mess with his speed and mobility. loma is already maxed out and mikey would have zero respect for his power.

 

Speed definitely kills.
A bit off topic but the small guys in UFC have made big waves lately. Pettis just moved up and KTFO Thompson, something big punchers before him could not do.

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Robert Whittaker moved up and became champ(beat some serious monsters to do so)
Santos and Smith moved up and earned title shots.
DC molly whopped the **** out of Miocic.

 

timing wouldn't helk with anything? Kid, are you plugged in? Timing and accuracy are two of the most important and prominent skills a fighter can have. Not only that, with the way Loma fights, arguably one of the only ways and fighters that could possibly beat him right now is Mikey Garcia due to his timing, accuracy, counterpunching, footwork, huge size and strength advantage, and I'm telling you -- his punching power combined with such a massive size and strength advantage would increase his power and the impact it has on the much smaller man 10 fold. In 12 rounds, I highly doubt Mikey is unable to catch Loma flush at least a few times, hes too good and skilled not to. And when he does, I'm pretty certain Loma is going down and that's no sleight to Loma or his chin and heart, I think both are excellent. Thats just what happens when a much larger, stronger, and more powerful guy times you and lands a dead clean counter punch on a fighter who comes in so explosively. I have little doubt Loma clowns Mikey BADLY up to around 8 or 9th rounds when Mikey fires a Patriot missile that lands dead flush on Loma with all his weight coming forward and due to his carelessness and showboating style.

Certain fighters you just flat out can't showboat against and or get careless against, especially if you're naturally about two weight classes smaller than one of those fighters. Mikey Garcia might be THE fighter you absolutely dont showboat against and or get careless against. Hes too good, too skilled, and too smart. And weve all seen how much Loma falls In love with himself during fights with his showboating and carelessness. That's just who he is and that's not gonna change.

FWIW -- I do believe Loma has an excellent chin and is dead game with more balls and heart than 10 fighters, but his chin, balls, and heart dont factor into the equation if he gets perfectly timed and countered by Mikey while he is coming in blazing fast with his blitzkrieg like style. All his weight coming forward into a dead accurate and fully loaded up counter by Mikey is just game over man. Really, that's it.

 

lol exactly. He got tuned the **** up and caight with shot after shot by a much bigger, longer, faster, and more explosive guy than himself and stayed upright the whole fight and never threw in the towel. A guy who is naturally two weight classes smaller than him will bother Mikey as much as a fly.

 

This 100 times over. You can already see Loma is not the same fighter at 135 as he was at his NATURAL WEIGHT of 126 and 130 at best. Hes clearly lost speed in all areas, looks stiffer with much less range of motion and reflexively is clearly slower. And that's TO BE EXPECTED when a fighter goes above his natural weight without PED's. And like @bandeedo said, he was still no banger at 126 and 130, I dont even know if any of his punches could catch Mikeys attention in the slightest.

 

thats what im seeing. mikey also took the best lipinets could throw at him, something peterson wasnt sturdy enough to do this past weekend. in other words, mikey is brushing off punches by the strongest of welters while loma is getting lumped up by B level lightweights. all mikey has to do is let his hands go anytime loma gets in range, he has no fear of getting hurt and he knows anything he lands, anywhere, is going to diminish loma. by the 8th rd, his movement will be affected by the bruising and numbness in his muscles and be an easier target to time.

 

why you always got to drag it to that level? people talking boxing and the first post that gets sand in your twat and you act like a little *****. if that aint a fangirl reaction, i dont know what is. you should have put a warning about saying anything about loma in your op, i wouldnt have bothered with your garbage.

 

Ya, I mean I'd think all this should be clearly obvious. For those who have trained, competed, and sparred, the effects of size and strength advantages have over a fighter with a significantly smaller frame and the effects that they have on the impact of punches landed are uncontrollably altering.

I think Loma is the better p4p fighter, but I don't see any version of him even seeing the 10th against Mikey and I'm NOT hating on Loma, I do actually really like him though not as much as Mikey.

TBH, I think Loma -- even though I think he loses no matter what -- would be better coming in at his 126 weight, which is his dead natural weight class. Hes so much faster, more fluid, more explosive, with better range of motion. If he came in at his NATURAL weight I think he could really make Mikey look foolish at times but Mikey is too skilled, too talented, too smart, and too big and powerful that he's gonna land on Loma no matter what, and like you said every shot that lands would sap Loma badly. I honestly think Mikey would beat the prime out of him and Loma wouldn't be the same again.

 

good one and easy to say to someone NOT TO THEIR FACE. I'm telling you right now you wouldnt disrespect me like that to my face, and you would know it.

I'm no fighters fanboy but you can't say the same. You've been getting turned out by Loma since he was an amateur. I didn't pick Mikey to win FTR, I said all along that the size disparity and lack of a couple feel out fights for Mikey at the weight would be his undoing but he should be praised and respected for trying and having the balls to try. And I even rrespect him more and like him more since the fight. He took his "L" like a man, and he and his camp are way too good and smart to not come away from that fight better.

 

Loma gives Mikey a worse beating than Spence? Some of you guys really live in a world of your own creation.

 

Loma doesnt have the size or power to move up too many weights. He was an average puncher at 126, at best. Plus hes got narrow shoulders. So he will be outsized and underpowered at 135. Which he is and that's a bad combination.

Pacquiao moved up and hes also small and narrow shouldered like Loma. But hes also p4p an absolute massive hitter. Really he is. At 122 and 126 he really did punch that hard

Marquez moved up from 126 and was really effective at 130 and 135. But hes also physically more rugged than Loma. Much broader shoulders than Pac or Loma. Very powerfully built little guy.

 

It's ok bro he's just a paranoid and delusional schizophrenic that got loose from his restraints and got to a computer before the nursing staff got back to him with the Halodol and Thorazine treatment and put him back in restraints. Just feel for him bro.