Look let's be realistic here. Wlad/Vitali/Lewis would dominate any era of HW boxing

Wladimir Klitschko does not have slow footwork. If anything, he's got extremely fast feet for a man his size. Haye really struggled with Wlad's footwork - not the other way around.

But I agree that Ali would outmanouver him.

 

On the contrary, I've watched Lewis quite a lot - he wasn't the offensive titan people seem to believe he was, but a strong, careful, methodical boxer who could really mix it up when he needed to. The man had a lot of things going for him, but speed of foot wasn't one of them. Lewis had huge feet, was slow to turn and I believe Ali could outmanouver him.

 

Yeah maybe a 6 rounder when they were coming through. Ali fought every few months in scheduled 15 rounders when he was 24. It was a different world back then.

 

Some good posts from you overall. Lewis had the best offense variety out of the four super heavy elites (Lewis-Bowe-Vitali-Wlad). He threw a wider arsenal of punches and like you said could really mix it up. I think Wlad got the slightly stronger right hand but only because that makes up 85% of Wlad's offense as oppose to 60% of Lewis's. I do realize Wlad had a much wider range of offensive talents prior to Steward .. the difference is after Steward Lewis still kept a lot of his aggressiveness and brawler mentality (when needed) Wlad seem to have withdrawn into a ultra cautious version of himself.

 

So what? Size can be a hindrance. What was Tyson? Five foot ten? I know who my money would have been on in a fight between a motivated Rooney trained Mike, vs Wlad.

 

It doesn't ****ing matter whether Ali was faster or not. Boxing isn't just about speed.

Lewis's boxing abilities were just as good as Ali's. This man's uppercuts would send Ali's head flying into the stands.

That's why weight classes exists.

Heavyweights in the past wouldn't be heavyweights now in the modern day era.

SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS exists in boxing.

Lewis would have his way with Ali, beat the holy **** out of him and bomb his ass out.

 

You are using some sort of 3 headed dragon to go against the other eras. that's not how it works. Lewis might have had the styles and skill set to make it competitive against Ali... on route to losing some sort of decision.. but Vitali's style kills himself against Ali. If you can't tell how badly Vitali's way of fighting will be against someone like 64-67 Ali you need to watch more boxing.

Ali is 6'3 and 217ish.. Vitali is 6'7 and 240ish on his best weight. That is a 4 inch and around a 22-26 pound difference. Ali is also twice as fast and have much better reflexes (even though Vitali's is underrated). Vitali will be lucky to win 2 rounds with his lean back style against someone like Ali. 10-2 Ali easy UD.

 

Thanks Brother :good Bowe actually had a lot of offensive quality as well. Somethimes I think that he actually had the most out of all four of them, but his head just wasn't right. A great shame, really.

 

No man.

Ali's game had a lot of weaknesses. You can see it in the Norton, Frazier, Doug Jones fights.

He never could deal with someone with a great fierce jab.

Something Lewis possessed.

Lewis was also much bigger than Ali and packed way more punching power.

He would destroy him.

 

I'm not just talking about speed, I'm talking about movement, staying on your toes and controlling range. Ali had fantastic footwork and, apart from Wlad, the "superheavies" can't compare to him. Height isn't everything - Haye survived relatively unscathed vs. Wladimir Klitschko and he is not bigger than Ali was - but prime Ali was superior to Haye in every department apart from height.

 

As did Lewis.

Lewis would have his way with Ali, considering that Lewis was a much bigger man, had just as much boxing ability. Sure Ali's movements were better but you just can't beat Lewis. Ali's punches wouldn't faze Lewis.

On the other hand, Lewis packed a whallop on both hands and would have Ali scared.

NO one can on Lewis's beat day.

I'd say Lewis KO11 Ali.

Many historians will agree with this.

Lewis on his best day would beat any boxer ever.

 

Yes, I meant in comparison to a mid 60's Ali. He hasn't got bad footwork for a guy who's 6ft 6, but how would he have coped with Ali on his toes? I just can't envisage it.

Haye did struggle. But Wlad was frustrated by Haye's movement, and couldn't land anything significant. Of course he clearly won the fight, but Haye's reflexes troubled him, even when layed on the ropes.

Ali would have danced in the centre of the ring, darting in and out of range, and I honestly, truthfully believe, that Wlad would have been bewildered.

 

Agreed - and so would Lewis, Vitali etc. :thumbsup

 

Ali would never have been able to deal with Lewis's size/power/boxing ability.

:deal

 

You keep saying that...

but it would be Pac vs Margarito 2