Looking back: Joshua vs Breazeale

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  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Brezeale best peformance is beating Molina. Molina best peformance is was taking Wilder deep and hurting him making him go bambi legs (has no noteworthy career wins at all).

    Martin's best peformances were beating Washington and going life and death with Ortiz, dropping Ortiz twice and winning all but the last round if the fight.
     
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    Because Whyte has by far the superior record.

    Whyte - Povetkin, Parker, Chisora, Rivas and Helenius.

    Wilder - Ortiz, Duhaupas, Helenius, Washington and Spzilka.

    It's clear.
     
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    Wlad was number 1. But yes Ruiz should have been number 1 at the time considering he beat the number 1.
     
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    Wlad who's last fight was a defeat to Fury.
     
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    So what's the issue with Fury boxing Chisora? Chisora, even at 38, is no worse than Breazeale, who would have even more than twelve losses on his record if he were to box who Chisora has boxed. Joshua also didn't have an undisputed bout around the corner, and was due to box Pulev (lol) after beating Klitschko, but then faced Takam. Both abysmal opponents. The "it was a mandatory" doesn't wash with anyone who has more than two brain cells, because mandatories are organised reciprocally between management and governing bodies.

    Joshua loves a soft bout. He even fought Pulev who was 39 and rubbish. He literally turned his back and ran away from Joshua into the corner with his hands over his head, and you've got Mitch here telling people that this is a high quality opponent who is better than Wilder.

    The fact is that Joshua has boxed awful opposition as a heavyweight champion, and Fury is doing the same here to ensure he makes it to the undisputed. Joshua fanboys can't handle that. It would cripple them if Fury were to beat Usyk.
     
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    Pulev was a mandatory. Breazeale was an opponent 2 months after Martin, and Joshua was at the early stages of his career. Completely different scenarios. At least Breazeale was an undefeated American. Chisora has lost 50% of his last 14 fights and has already been beaten twice by Fury in borefests where the crowd were booing towards the end of the second fight.
     
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    Fury officially retired prior to the Wlad vs AJ fight.
     
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    Number 1 was the Bronze Bomber.
     
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    Lol why would Wilder be number 1 at the time ahead Wlad? Wilder was just coming off beating Washington at the time and hadn't even fought Ortiz. AJ went straight to number 1 after beating Wlad.
     
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    Because Wlad was 41, inactive and coming off a loss. The Bronze Bomber was king.
     
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    I've already stated that the "he was a mandatory" doesn't wash. Boxing fans make me laugh. They will complain about how arbitrary and corrupt boxing rankings and governance is, respectively, yet they will insist that "mandatories" are formulated by some sort of meritocratic mechanism.

    "At least Breazeale was an undefeated American". What does being American have to do with anything? I laughed at that! Tom Schwarz was an undefeated German - he was still hopeless.

    Joshua fans can't admit that this Chisora bout is similar to the likes of the Breazeale bout; two sides of the same coin. Both knockover jobs.
     
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    For beating the likes of Washington, Spzilka,, Duhaupas and Arreola? Opponents that the likes Chisora would make easy work of. Don't make me laugh.
     
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    Earn mentioned Washington and Arreola as potential opponents for Joshua in 2023 - both of whom are in their 40s. At the same time, he assured it would be a "top 15 opponent".
     
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    Peddie Hearn is trying to get Arreola over to fight Joshua 8 years later :lol:
     
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    Hearn has already dismissed this as being untrue. Stated the three opponents they were looking were Hrgovic, Zhang and Wallin.

    However confirmed yesterday they are first time years in talks for the Wilder fight after Shelley Winkel replied to Hearns email months after sending it.