Luis Firpo vs Bonecrusher Smith

Thanks fella.

 

Firpo was actually decently fast as you can see in the Dempsey fight .. both were huge punchers .. I think the best Firpo would be busier and more aggressive but Bonecrusher was very very thought at his best ..

 

Firpo is the worst, least talented, least skilled heavyweight challenger who has ever been filmed. I state that without pause.

He did not know how to box, not the first thing. He had bad balance, bad feet, threw from another zip code, over-commited to his punches and left giant, gaping holes. He refused to pay a trainer and disliked actual training. But for his day, he was big enough, he was strong enough and he was well-connected enough. God Bless him.

 

Firpo was fast when he landed on the floor several times against Dempsy. Firpo was disgrace for the quality boxing
with his nearly zero defense and with his lame moves

 

Even Firpo admitted in the buildup to the Dempsey fight that he wasnt ready to meet Dempsey and would have preferred more time. When your best wins are over a geriatric Jess Willard who was rejected as a title challenger because of his age and inactivity, Weinert, who you outweighed by 40 pounds and who avenged that loss, and Brennan who had not only lost his last fight but who hadnt defeated anything close to a contender in YEARS it doesnt take a genius to see why Rickard imported him, fed him stiffs and retreads, and then sent him to the slaughter as a softball for Dempsey. The fact that Dempsey was dropped three times in the two rounds that fight started is a pretty damning indictment of his supposed defensive prowess which was comically highlighted on a video clip here within the last week. Anyone can string together clips of a boxer slipping the odd punch here and there to make him look like Willie Pep but when you are repeatedly getting tagged by Luis Firpo who sent his punches by air mail from Argentina youve got no business pretending you are defensively slick.

 

I disagree and think everyone is parroting the same dribble .. In twenty rounds against a lightning fast, exceptional Tunney a past it Dempsey was rarely hit flush on his chin so obviously he wasn't that bad defensively ... Firpo was wild for sure but he was extremely strong, a big puncher, clearly had decent hand speed, terrific recuperative powers and a ton of heart ..also soon after the Dempsey fight he went the distance against Wills in far poorer physical shape so again he could not have been that bad.

 

So power and decent had speed are not skills .. heart, recuperative powers and natural physical strength are not in the skill category .. have some original thought and don't parrot the same crap .. Firpo was raw but he was a very strong, hard hitting, motivated guy that came into the fight w Dempsey primed for the battle of his life .. there are dozens of title challengers in the history of the heavyweight division he could and would have flattened.

 

Tunney said Dempsey was hard to nail on the chin.

 

Where is his power proven? Against whom did he prove this? Where is it sworn he had great power and strength outside the Rickard scripts handed over to writers on his dole?

The guy beat 12 fighters with winning records. Among those are an ancient Willard, Bill Brennan in his next to final fight, a middleweight Angel Rodriguez. He couldn't KO a Homer Smith who was KO'd 15 times, a guy Harry Greb stopped, a guy the great Sergeant Ray Smith stopped... His record is full of debut fighters, guys with losing records, guys with less than 10 fights. Rickard went so far as to brag how he had created Firpo from whole cloth.

He is the worst to ever enter a heavyweight championship ring and be filmed.

 

Man are you a bore.

 

He went the distance with Wills because Wills had broken his hand so bad that he needed a specialist to reconstruct the bones in it less than a year before he fought Firpo. Wills was plainly vocal throughout this period that he was being careful of his hands and their condition was no secret. His trip to Europe to scout a specialist was well documented. Firpo was dominated by easy, wide, one sided fashion. Exactly the same way Weinert did when Rickard had his fill of Firpo and stopped protecting him. Remarkable how Firpos career falls apart immediately after Dempsey and not only can he not beat anyone near contender status but hes not even competitive with one. When the best names on your record are 42 year old Jess Willard, Bill Brennan in his second to last fight coming off a loss and having beat nobody in years, and Weinert who he outweighed 40 pounds but who still managed to beat the hell out of him in a rematch the following year, well, dont tell me how great he was to puff up Dempsey’s struggle with him.

 

How much you pay S to parrot you,?

 

Someone’s getting knocked into the stands

 

Interesting point about Wills hand. Did not know that it was so damaged .. makes a degree of sense as he was old, highly inactive during that stage of his career as well as selective w who he fought. That said, everyone has a story and Firpo did go the distance with him by all accounts pretty easily. I simply disagree w you on Firpo and to a degree Dempsey. At his most focused in his short career Firpo was very dangerous. He proved it against Dempsey who you're no fan of but certainly was in the least an extremely "good" and very dangerous fighter. If you are going to comment on his career falling apart post Dempsey study Firpo more .. the man was all about money. He was a businessman and entrepreneur. He truly fought to make as much money as possible as fast as possible and packed it in to go back to SA and continue his business ventures. That's what he did.