Luis Ortiz - The most avoided fighter in the division

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  1. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hrgovic calling out Ortiz is pathetic.

    Hrgovic is nearly 30. Fury was number 1 at 27.
     
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    Skyver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah forgot about that.tbf in Joshua's case why would he even have contemplated putting him in with Ortiz at that time considering it was before he fought wilder and Joshua was a world champion.that would've been nuts.whyte on the other hand might have been more realistic.
     
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    Skyver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No chance that fight happens.he will be fed to another pbc fighter most like.
     
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    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    WTF has Ortiz beaten? How many top ten ranked fighters has he fought? lol!
    Whyte
    Klitschko
    Pulev
    Breazeale
    Parker
    Povetkin
    Ruiz
    Takam
    Molina
    Usyk
    Any of those names on Ortiz resume?
    Ortiz' best win is over Jennings ,and that was over 6 years ago!
    He has ducked everybody!
     
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  5. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joshua lost to Usyk, so I am not sure how that is worth counting.

    He also got battered by Rice Pudding Jr in the most embarrassing thing seen in a boxing ring.

    You have some gall including the likes of Molina, Takam and Breazeale on that list - total cannon fodder.

    Paint Dry bout was a massive skidmark, Povetkin was old and coming off being dropped by ... David Price. Pulev is a pudding and Whyte was inexperienced, out of shape and injured - and apparently British level according to this forum.

    Joshua's curriculum vitae is a myth. It's a typical curriculum vitae that is dressed up to the max and propagated by fanboys.

    One would have to favour Ortiz on the strength of his curriculum vitae.
     
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    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am pretty tired of the whole 'boogeyman' bull****. He's fought a journeyman's career and won't be much remembered when he's gone.
     
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    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    @Mitch87 has him down as a pudding and it is hard to disagree - right up there with Pudding Whyte
     
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    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ has wins over Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Pulev and even Takam are all better fighters than Jennings (who is Ortiz most notable win).

    Ortiz just went life and death with Charles Martin (which is Ortiz second best win) whilst AJ got him out without even breaking into a sweat.

    How is that even remotely close?
     
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    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Take out an old Wlad at 41 and the rest are puddings mate
     
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    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All but Takam have better resumes than Wilder. So what does that say about Furys resume considering Wilder is the best person he has beaten after Wlad and Chisora.
     
  11. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Ortiz has always been overrated. How people can compare him to Joshua is bizarre. Granted Joshua got bashed about by Ruiz but he got his revenge and dominated Ruiz in the rematch. Ruiz couldn't land a glove on him. Joshua lost fair and square to Usyk but there's no shame in that and he wanted the rematch straight away.
     
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    Any man that can somehow get back to his feet after receiving a power jab from Charles the Prince “walks like a god” Martin is a legend in my eyes.
     
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    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can't take anything away from that rematch imo. Ruiz was a disgrace, he was barley anything more than a heavybag. Joshua still was terrified to try get him out of there.
     
  14. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Excuses. Joshua didn't take Fatboy seriously and got spanked. He didn't have any excuses. Puts his head down, trains hard and dominates him in the rematch. Ruiz starts moaning how he didn't train etc.

    Can't wait for the Joshua Usyk rematch. Forum will go into complete meltdown mode when AJ knocks him out.
     
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    Walk this Earth like a God was bought for the Dosh bout, clearly. He wasn't even remotely hurt.

    Ortiz is old, shot and still put over Martin, and even managed to trap his glove in the ropes which is a serious achievement. Has Dosh even managed to do that? He can barely throw a jab at a decent opponent.

    Joshua's party trick is his dance. He will be on Strictly Come Dancing once he's been KO'd a few more times.