So let's hear! Who would have a better chin? Ortiz? AJ? Ruiz? Whyte? Maybe Wilder has a tough chin as Fury
Ortiz earned his respect. He smashed Kayode, Jennings and Thompson when others struggled with them. Which of course got him a lot of praise and hype. Then followed mediocre performances vs Allen and Scuba Scott. People realized that Ortiz was really good, but not the monster he had seemed to be. And even now he is still able to easily beat the likes of Kauffman, Hammer and Cojanu. Doing so is proof that Ortiz is a good boxer and most likely a top 10 contender. The only time someone says Ortiz is a supposed boogeyman is when people here criticize Ortiz. No one is hyping him. He doesn't have his own Aydamn or Paranoid Android. He has a few fans who know he is old and limited, but good none the less. So STFU. Every ****ing top heavyweight keeps getting slapped with the same BS question: "Who has he really beaten?" Always coming up with excuses to discredit someones resume. It's tiresome and played out.
Easily beat Kauffman he must be a monster . A win over Conjanu mate really these are not top contenders and neither is Hammer. For instance Dillian Whyte's resume craps all over his. Yet he is getting a second shot at Wilder? Why, its because its the path of least resistance.
People on this board like to pretend he didn’t win half of the fight and almost stop Wilder. Yes, he’s in a different category that Szpilka and Washington based on his performance.
Who is calling him a monster? Or a boogeyman? That **** ended in 2016 after he looked average vs Allen and Scott. No one is calling him anything besides guys who berate him. "I thought Ortiz was the boogeyman, but who has he beat?" I didn't say that he is a monster, you said that Yes, Conjanu and the likes are no where near the top. They are the fringe contenders. And Ortiz beat them with ease. Do some simple math and you can see that Ortiz is actually a good boxer. Good enough to be in the top 10. Or don't you think that at any point was Ortiz a legit top contender? And Wilder is fighting him again because the first one did good numbers, and it's a winnable fight. Plus it seems like PBC promised Ortiz a shot. Why else would they turn down Joshua? (Of course that is mostly a speculation, with some ground)
I heard it on the radio,as I wasnt prepared to watch those prats, the sicken me. so I ask you again, when, now you can theres no bias in my post quite clearly for either boxer. why wont you tell me?help a chap out who didnt watch the fight.