Lyoto Machida doesn't deserve a title shot at Jones

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  1. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rampage won 2 rounds clearly, Machida one 1 round. I cant see any arguement for Rampage losing either of the first two.
    Did Machida win his round in more dominant fashion than either of the rounds Page won? Yes
    Was round 3 a 10-8 round for Machida? No
    According to the rules of the UFC rampage won. Machida won the event for sure but not the fight.

    I dont understand this at all. Its not a credible win to suggest page isnt shot or anything but it is a win for him. imo its machida who lost that fight rather than page winning it. He just didnt throw enough in the first 2.
     
  2. horst

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    :nono This is nonsense. They weren't "clear" Rampage rounds at all, could easily have went either way. The only definitive round was the 3rd, where Machida beat Rampage like a naughty ginger stepchild.
     
  3. Flash Jab

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    I thought Rampage won too, but he didn't exactly beat Machida. Was barely a fight in the first two rounds.
     
  4. Matt Ldn

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    Firstly when i say clear i dont mean dominant i mean that Lyoto simply didnt do enough to deserve to win either of them. Close but clear, if you scored them to Machida then i dont know what i can say to you i just fundamentally disagree and dont understand how you or anyone could score them that way.

    I agree completely and i do understand what you were saying it was hardly a crushing defeat and he definitely won the event. Its just one of those things that winds me up when they say that Machida won, its a bit like the MMA Lewis-Vitali for me:lol:
     
  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Would Rampage have beaten or even made it close against Machida if the two Machida Shogun fights hadnt happened?

    Shogun took Machidas confidence

    Spectaculary KOing an ancient Couture doesnt show me hes gotten that confidence back

    And if he hasnt, JBJ will crush him
     
  6. horst

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    I agree, Machida was definitely gunshy vs Page, looked like a different fighter from the guy who thrashed Thiago and Rashad.
     
  7. Flash Jab

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    Just for the record, I was over the moon when Rampage won, was very happy with the decision.
     
  8. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For sure. I think the 3rd round of the fight against page who for all his limitations has decent power would have done more for his confidence than koing an old man.

    I dont mean to get worked up about it Flash i know what you meant its just that i cant even understand people saying he didnt win that fight. Its like someone trying to tell me 1+1=3 i just cant see it in any sense.
     
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    machida will win this fight
     
  10. skoorydookatron

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    mite give jones a few problems, style wise at least IMO
     
  11. Ai-edy2007

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    .......... are you serious dude? who else besides machida is there who has a reasonable punchers chance against jones? rashad? rashad would try to lay n pray him out and if that didnt work then he's got nothing, he beat up in terms of striking a old man tito, i dont see him getting near jones reach and when he doesnt his night is over.
     
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    how the hell haven't you been banned for crimes against bull****.

     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Machida is as deserving as anyone & stylistically we get to see Jones face a test he has not faced yet, whats the problem :huh

    Evans has NO shot vs Jones, he is scared shitless of him, he does not believe he can beat Jones IMO, Machida is a more exciting (& better) fighter than Evans, I`m glad its Machida-Jones... Evans can fight Shogun, get his ass KTFO by the better fighter (like he did vs Machida) & give us fans a break from his boring arse.

    Shogun can then fight the Jones-Machida winner, at least thats the way I would have it.
     
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    Mike W wants to pound Rashad Evans from behind in his Octagon