Manny Pacquiao and his greatness.....

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  1. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, those are all names I've heard certain pac fans claim pac can beat on esb. Some pac fans really don't care who pac is matched, they think he will win. If yo don't agree, they label you a hater. :patsch
     
  2. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I like Pacman and the way he fights but his nuthugging zero knowledge fans make me want him to lose.
     
  3. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    just ignore the nuthuggers, continue your support on pacman :good
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :think

    very hard for the haters to digest. :D
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Ehh, you and Harrison are just secretly in love with UliUli! LOL
     
  6. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    just giving back the favor... he's been giving love to pac and pacfans since the day his idols dated with the canvass. :D
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PAC could definitely beat the likes of a few on this list....Cotto, EM, Possibly Chavez and Trinidad depending on the weight class. PAC in terms of talent and skills are up there with all these guys but the ATG's like Pep, Duran, Arguello....I feel PAC may just be just shy of where they were at their peaks. But that is all speculation.
     
  8. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only one of those I can agree with you on is Prime Morales because they are a comparable size. I am not saying he is not on the other guys level skillwise but they are just too big and strong for him. In Tito you are talking about a guy that was KO'ing middleweights. If he was to hit Manny anywhere it would hurt, he could land on his elbows and break his arm and Manny's power at the weight would not be sufficent to hurt Tito in any way.

    No matter how great a fighter is they have their limits.
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea....Size does play a factor but so does style and talent. PAC has more talent than Tito and his style is one that would cause tito a bunch of problems. Believe me......matching ELITE guys in mythical match ups are never a "given". For me I only "lean" towards a fighter when we are speaking about guys fighting at this level. On any given night any fighter can loose fighting guys like the ones mentioned. But you have to take in to consideration many variables which is why I feel PAC has the style to beat Tito even thought he's not a natural 140 fighter.
     
  10. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about Pac's style makes you think that he could beat Tito? Tito only ever had problems with guys that had the discipline and stamina to put on a defensive masterpiece for 12 full rounds and be conservative with their punch outout thus limiting his chances to hit them back. You also need a long reach against Tito.

    Pac's style is offense first, every single fight that we have seen from Tito indicates that if you stand in front of him, you will go down and that is exactly what pacquio does. he comes straight in at you. IN his more recent fights he has incorporated some excellent movement at the waist to avoid shots but that would not work against a guy that can hurt you so easily. Tito would be content to swing at elbows and the top of the head or wherever he can land and Manny would really have to lung in or stretch to land on him.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol, pac has not beat a real good fighter above 130 and now he is beating some of the best 135 and above fighters of alll time. let the man find out himself if he can compete in these waters before you start placing him above guys with the credentials.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    Pac beats a prime Oscar almost every time.

    I think Oscar only fought 4 southpaws in his entire career.

    Brendahl, Whitaker, Camacho, and Pac.

    Whitaker and Camacho were shot but Oscar still arguably lost to Whitaker. And if people think Oscar was weight drained against Pac, well the same thing can be said about Camacho against Oscar.
     
  13. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Oh ****, you've made your idiot statement of the day already!:nut

    *******'s are mild in their opinion of Pac compared to you. Everyone knows ODLH was a zombie in the fight, but I still don't take anything away from Pac for fighting a perfect fight though. Still, WTF are you on?
     
  14. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I keep hearing pac fans refer to the whitikar fights as an indicator of how pacman would do against Oscar and I guess you guys just validate the claim that you don't really know boxing.

    Let just get it out there. Whitikar and Pacquio are absolutly nothing alike. They are both southpaws and both have excllent stamina, that is where the similarities end. Pacman is a fighter that relies on a relentless offense to break guys into pieces. Whitikar was a defensive master with a superb jab. Whitikar troubled Oscar with his defense he stood in front of him and made him miss. Pacquiao is not anywhere near that good defensivly. he would exchange with Oscar and a prime Oscar was also fast but bigger, and a much harder puncher.
     
  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    actually by saying things like "Pacquiao relies on a relentless offense to break guys into pieces" suggests to me that you haven't seen a Pacquiao fight since 2005. And there's alot more similarities than both being southpaws with excellent stamina.

    - Both have great handspeed.
    - They are the same height.
    - They can fight off the backfoot.
    - They both have great head movement.
    - They both have a great jab.

    And by the way anyone who thinks Pacquiao would just stand and trade against Oscar doesn't know ****.