Manny Pacquiao is not a small guy anymore.

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  1. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao has only not proven that he convincingly went up in weights to challenge some fighters but also has shown he evolved in this sport, the way he learned and develop as a boxer in every fights he fought. A characterisric we rarely see in an athlete, much more in boxing. :good
     
  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    He usually enters the ring the same size anyway so it doesnt matter... but the WWs are bigger than the JWWs + the more talented fighters are at WW so in that sense I suppose Manny would look better at JWW.
     
  3. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

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    how would you know he was on every thread? were you there in all those threads also?
     
  4. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think about it,if he was 4" taller and 40lbs heavier he'd be Rocky Marciano.:lol:
     
  5. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    after taking flush heavy shots from cotto and not being effected.... i would say his size disadvantage is vastly blown out of proportion...

    paq - 5.6 67 reach
    cotto 5.7 67 reach
    berto 5.8 reach unknown
    mosley 5.8-9 depending on who u ask 74 reach (wow mosley has ****** arms)
    mayweather 5.8 72 reach
    hlatshwayo 5.8 71 reach
    clottey 5.8 70 reach
    margarito 5.11 :patsch 73 reach

    A persons reach is supposed to be the same as their height... so naturally a man who is 5'10 and has 70 inch reach would be considerd normal.
    the problem is with guys like mayweather and mosley who have unusually long arms.

    anyways, i would class pac as a small welter, but still a LEGIT welter. The only problems hr would face are guys who dont belong at welter (williams,clottey, and margarito). Those guys are small middleweights fighting at welter.

    mosley and mayweather would bother pac with their long arms, not because of their size
     
  6. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    that would be short, not small


    like tyson was a short HW, but not a small HW
     
  7. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tysons best weight was like 210 - 220 and he has a 71 inch reach

    thats a small hw to me, especially compared to lewis and bowe ect...

    lewis is 6'5 250 pounds and has an 84 inch reach

    yea..... tyson is a small heavy :deal
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    he is just a great small man that's why he gets to beat bigger fighters than him.
     
  9. maryann

    maryann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    plus the fact that he just weighed 144 even with full meals before weigh-in.
     
  10. Knives7

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    Let's see, 5'6 1/2 who only weighs-in at 148 during the fight night at welter. Regular welter weighs-in up to 160. Hmm... Small and short man for welter. :deal
     
  11. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dear lord

    He is short, has small wingspan, small frame, weights below the limit everytime and even at lower weights he was often outweighted by opponents. JMM is bigger than him, Morales was bigger.
     
  12. LastQuark

    LastQuark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...and he's askijng for 154 lbs for the Pac fight. :lol::lol:
     
  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    of course not, but hes also no welterweight eather....
     
  14. Blind Sheikh

    Blind Sheikh Active Member Full Member

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    Pac is a small guy. He's 5'6. At WW he can't KO guys with 1 punch like he's done at lower divisions.

    That said, Pac and any top WW KO's Floyd easy. That's why Floyd avoids welterweights like Floyd Sr. avoids cough drops.
     
  15. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Until the Marquez fight, which we had no unofficial weights for, Floyd had never weighed in above 150 on fight night for a welterweight fight. Does that also get him a pass for not being a real welter?