Manny Pacquiao vs Paul Williams

some people thinks pac beat williams not because he is of the same size as floyd nor williams. it is because pac is much a greater fighter than williams. you joyboys have some silly arguments in the world.

pac is still smaller than floyd who is a natural welter now while williams might have problems making 147 at present. pac can still make 140 or even 135 if he really needs to.

 

the guy showed you clips of pac fighting backwards and counterpunching and all you have to say that he is a stan. you are owned and you have the nerve to still argue with him.

 

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you're the fool here man.

Hatton shows that he's gonna throw a left hook, and Pacquiao counters that by throwing a short right hook and ducking down. Hatton cocks his left hook back about 6 inches and is slower so its normal for Pacquiao's counter to get to the target first.

have to head out now but I will be back to debate with you whether that should be considered a counter or not.

If Hatton doesn't show he's gonna throw a hook, Pacquiao doesn't throw that right hook counter.

Same with Cotto's jab in those other gifs, if Cotto doesn't throw that jab, Pacquiao doesn't throw that left hand counter.

If I can counter my opponent by anticipating his punch, then that's a counter, even if I beat him to the punch.

 

williams by UD or even KO.. if this fight happens pacquiao would be biting more than he can chew.... styles make fights and williams is just too tall and long for pacquiao's small ass.. pacquiao has a better chance against floyg because floyd is a smaller fighter like him

:hat

 

atsch Him showing me the exact same clips on which I've comment on in the thread earlier is suppose to prove what???

Go back and read the damn thread you stan!:rofl

 

You're the fool.

"A counter punch, begun immediately after an opponent throws a punch, exploiting the opening in the opponent's position."


All Pac did was react and throw faster, he didn't counter anything because there was nothing to counter.

 

This is very true. Anyone who has boxed knows counters can come without letting the opponent land or miss first, anticipation and timing is the key. In this case speed helped too.

 

No, Hatton tried to throw a punch, his hook is wide and needs to cockback. Pac counters this by reaching in with his own hook, but a shorter one on the inside and proceeds to duck whats left of Hattons hook.

Pac counters Hatton's movement. Not all counters needs to be delivered after making someone miss or blocking a punch. Just as on the inside, if you were to throw a wide hook to my head and I anticipate that, I can counter your move with a quick straight shot to your face before your one lands.

"A counter punch, begun immediately after an opponent throws a punch, exploiting the opening in the opponent's position."

Hatton tries to throw a hook, Pac reacts immediately. He exploits the opening in Hattons position based on Hatton cocking that left hook.

 

Pac threw his punch before Hatton did. Pac landed his punch before Hatton's punch had move 25% of the total distance he needed.

Pac simply read and reacted faster. No counter.

 

No, watch carefully. Its not like Pac just threw it out there. Hatton tries to throw a left hook, to do so he drops his guard because his left glove leaves his left cheek, as soon as he cocks it back Pac throws a quick hook on the inside of Hattons own hook. It was thrown mili seconds after Hatton tries to throw his own and it was the right hook and positioning to reach Hatton first. Very clearly a counter. This sort of counters we practice in the gym everyday.

Its the same as if you are much faster than your opponent, like FLoyd, if you try to throw a jab, as soon as your glove leaves your face he can throw a right hand over the top and he will reach first. If he just threw it there it would have been blocked, but he waits for the opportunity. That is a counter.

 

eze and rudyard, you guys should just calm down and learn to laugh at them:

 

If you watch the gif carefully you can see that Pac starts to throw his right hook before Hatton even throws his left.

 

My mistake. I think you might be right

 

Not a counter.

Jesus, guys.

 

If you're counting on Paul not being able to make the weight comfortably, you will be in for a big surprise. He was 152.5 for a 154 fight recently.. Does that sound like a guy who is at 154 because he can't make 147?


You say Pac can still make 140 and 135... You think he's the only guy out there who can fight comfortably in three weight classes?