Manny Steward is an overrated trainer.

Damn I have to agree with you on that ...on all counts

 

All fights always turn out just as Manny expected them to.

 

What about
Hilmer Kenty
Milton McCrory
Mike McCallum
Dennis Andries
Jimmy Paul
Duane Thomas
John David Jackson
Michael Moorer
Steve McCrory
Gerald McClellan

 

Enzo is clearly one of the best in the game as he not only brought up his very talented son but also made world title belt holders out of mediocre brawlers like Rees and Maccarinelli - that's a real accomplishment.

Roach is still learning but Bernstein is also one of the top trainers there are today...

 

It'll be great if he tells his fighters in the process... He also hate on Floyd during the Oscar fight then turned around when he seen that Floyd had the advantage and changed his tune. He said that Cintron would beat Mayweather .... He said that Tyson wasn't a top tier HW ... He said he knew Jermain was going to lose after the second round .... He said that Hatton brought the best out of Mayweather ...

 

Kronk Gym wouldn't exist today if not for the hard work of Manny Steward.

 

It doesnt exsit it shutdown

 

I can't argue with that ... He's just bias ... and he doesn't put fourth the effort in training a fighter if it does't benefit him ... he has soo many fighters in his stable he can't hostly training them all equally. His main focus is on Wlad then who ever the media is looking for. Cintron has no chance against Margarito. I'm pretty sure Steward has his focus in Andy Lee and his future as a middleweight star. He has more money in a fight between Lee v Pavlik or Lee v Duddy than a fight with Cintron v Margarito. And please believe me if Wlad had a fight scheduled around this time ... it would be murder for anyone of those guys because he wouldn't have their best interest in mind.

 

i think all "famous" trainers are overrated to a certain degree and steward is no different, but you can't disparage his body of work esp with his signature fighter tommy hearns, i always liked the relationship the two of them had... i don't believe hearns would've achieved what he did with any other trainer

 

You're a ****ing idiot. Did you ever listen to Manny between rounds with Taylor? Taylor was the problem, not Manny. Steward told him EXACTLY what to do to win his fights. If he had followed Stewards instructions (just TRIED to follow his instructions even) he would have beat Winky, and would have easily handled Spinks.

You say the proof is that Taylor did better against Pavlik without Steward. But Taylor followed STEWARD'S gameplan when he fouht Pavllik the second time. He just worked the jab constantly, which is what Steward was trying to get him to do.

This thread is ridiculous. If anything Steward is underrated because the only people that many of you seem to think he's trained were Lewis, Hearns, and Klitschko. Check this **** out:

• Hilmer Kenty
• Thomas Hearns
• Milton McCrory
• Mike McCallum
• Dennis Andries
• Jimmy Paul
• Duane Thomas
• John David Jackson
• Michael Moorer
• Steve McCrory
• Gerald McClellan
• Wilfredo Benitez
• Evander Holyfield
• Julio César Chávez
• Lennox Lewis
• James Toney
• Oscar de la Hoya
• Wladimir Klitschko
• Jermain Taylor
• Kermit Cintron
• Naseem Hamed
• Andy Lee

And that list isn't even complete. It leaves out guys like Aaron Pryor!

And really read throug that list and think about how many of those fighters were significantly different fighters after being trained by Steward. And theres MANY MANY more that aren't on that list. And unless I'm mistaken, Steward is still involved in amateur boxing from the Detroit area!

And also theres many guys that even though Steward wasn't their primary trainer, got their start in Kronk, and very much display Steward's teachings in their fighting.

Steward almost always makes a real difference in a fighters boxing ability, and success in fights. Notable exceptions of course are Naseem Hamed and Jermain Taylor - but this is not Steward's fault.

Remember when Lennox Lewis had his first lost to Oliver McCall, Steward was training McCall. After that fight Lennox had Steward in his corner, and the rest his history. If the best fighters out there, such as Lennox Lewis think Steward is a great trainer, what do the people bashing him on this thread know that makes their opinions more informed than people who have actually worked with him?

 

Steward may not have the time to take care of Cintron like he does Wlad, but if you've seen Cintron 'before and after' training with Steward, you'd know that whatever time he DOES get has been completely worth it. He's improved quite a bit, though he's still got plenty to work on. I'm pretty sure Steward puts quite a bit of effort into Cintron.

 

And also I think to say that Steward doesn't care about his fighters now is ridiculous.

I mean look at Andy Lee, really young kid, just a prospect. Steward is in his SEVENTIES, but he still has taken the time to develop him and spend a LOT of time on him. Why would he do that if he didn't have a genuine interest in him? Doesn't Lee live in Detroit now as well? I just remember reading smething that made me think he spends a lot of time with Steward.

 

Yeah I seen Cintron before and after ... I don't Steward will have the time to prepare Cintron properly. He has more cash cows than Cintron ... Andy is his primary focus outside of Klitschko. He has a good amateur pedigree and he's undefeated so far. I'm pretty sure Steward would pick to accurately prepare Lee more than Cintron. Cintron is what he is and if Cintron loses he won't lose any sleep over it. He won't be like oh we'll be back -- he probably get a plug in for Andy Lee fight Pavlik or something.

 

Yeah, I was just about to list some of those names. (I had forgotten a couple that you mentioned, Ringmaster.) Steward did bring a lot of guys up from the beginning, but it's been awhile since he had somebody like that really excel. I think that's why some people only think of Hearns as being in that category. Steward's become much more of a hired gun in the past decade or so, and he's had mixed results. Hard to criticize his entire body of work, though.

 

Why do i have to be a ****ing idiot because i dont share the same view as you. Calm down buddy i didnt say he sucked all i said was he ****ed Taylor. Taylor has preformed better under other trainers.