Marciano - One Man's Opinion ...

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Personally I don´t think Mercer has anything on Layne from what I know about both.
     
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  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Bingo. Dempsey's run as champion is pretty hard to defend. His opposition was good pre-title, but he really didn't do everything to prove himself in his era. I see a double-pass with this when a lot Marciano detractors... or perhaps non-fans don't think much of him but then go on to rate Dempsey's skills/resume as being a top 3 HW caliber.
     
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  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    He Grant, I know we bump heads but I think you would like this quote on Marciano. A historian said this about Marciano. It's one of my favorite quotes on the man.

    Herb Goldman, "I see his legacy as a fighter, as a man of indomitable courage. Rocky Marciano showed what the will to win can do."
     
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  4. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. janitor

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    Most people on this forum are here to discuss boxing, not to air their personal issues.

    Race is obviously a pivotal issue for you because it comes up in most of your posts.

    Real boxing fans are colourblind.

    Their favourite fighters are usualy a bit of a mixed bag.
     
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  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Janitor,

    Might Sam Langford and Rocky Marciano be the two strongest p4p fighters to ever enter the ring?
     
    SuzieQ49, Jun 22, 2010
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  7. bodhi

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    Kid Lavigne?
    Barbados Joe Walcott?
     
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  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Barbados Joe Walcott is certainly top 5 material. Dick Tiger, and Jake Lamotta are up their too.
     
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  9. janitor

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    At their approximate weight perhaps.

    If you take in the lower weight classes then the pool gets prety deep.
     
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  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    KN, this is an English speaking -- not gibberish -- boxing forum. No problem with your typing, it just makes the incoherence more glaring.

    What also is clear, your anger about Marciano goes far deeper than how good a fighter he was.
     
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  11. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We have a saying over here in Germany: "don´t argue with idiots, they pull you down on their niveau and beat you with experience."

    Don´t do that John, he ain´t worth it. :bart
     
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  12. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Chuck Wepner"

    I don't remember Wepner winning the championship, ko'ing the best of his time, nor going undefeated. Are these possibly the reasons Marciano is considered better by most "white folks" than Wepner.
     
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  13. john garfield

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    Thanks, b. Should know better.
     
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  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    What's not discussed often is that Marciano was a terrific athlete. He played baseball on a near pro level. Speed aside he was a good football player. He wrestled. My point in all this was the man learned to maximize his talents.

    With a low center of gravity, hugh legs and a powerful trunk there is no doubt he was a pitbull ..
     
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  15. burt bienstock

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