Marciano vs. best Cruiserweights - still 49-0?

Qawi, Holyfield, Bellew and Toney decision him.
Usyk and Haye KO him.
Have only watched 1 fight of De Leon, so I can't say how that fight would go.

 

Toney has better defense and is more elusive.

 

I think he beats them all, Holyfield and Usyk are his toughest opponents, but Evander often let himself get suckered into slugging and Rocky takes him out. Usyk is damn good but Rocky would stop him late.

 

Because James Toney wouldn't be 40+ years old like Archie Moore was.

 

Wouldnt matter, Toney wasnt in Marcianoś league.

 

In what way ? i would argue James Toney is certainly more skillful than Marciano, better defence, arguably a better chin.

 

moore was 38 if you want to get specific.

And since we’re bringing up the 1955 version of Archie Moore, did Toney accomplish anything in his career as impressive as what Archie Moore did from 1952-1955? Going 45-1, 5 victories over hall of fame men, 3 victories over heavyweights rated in top 5 by ring magazine (two of whom weighed 210lb +)

does Toney in 2000 look as good on film as Archie did in 54 when he knocked out hall of fame 26 year old Harold Johnson?

lastly,

when Toney competed in the cruiserweight division, he was no longer a young man but one in his early-mid 30s. He lost embarrassingly to someone named Drake Thazdi and got hit with a million punches by average hitting jirov and was arguably behind going into the 12th.

 

toney isn’t in Archie Moore’s league. Toney couldn’t handle Jirovs punching volume and Marciano hits about 100x harder

 

Someone watch round 6 Marciano vs Moore and look me in the eye and tell me Toney has a chance vs Marciano.

 

Toney thoroughly outboxed Jirov quite comfortably on points, despite Lederman's ridiculous scorecard. It was a masterful performance from Toney in precise counter punching and defence, so i'm not quite sure what you mean by "couldn't handle Jirov's punching volume". Jirov made it somewhat competitive because of his ridiculous workrate, but Toney still won fairly handily on points. And Jirov was a southpaw and 6'2, i don't really see comparison between a mythical match up between Toney/Marciano.

 

Archie Moore was born in 1913 the fight between Marciano took place in 1955, so unless i have wrong information on Archie Moore's birthdate, or my maths is wrong that would make Archie Moore 40+.

 

you are wrong

Census shows archie Moore was born December of 1916

 

toney fought like a 1955 archie Moore except Moore was a much harder two fisted power and deadlier finisher

Toney laying on the ropes to counter Marciano would end up a repeat of Archie Moore and worse because Toney doesn’t have the punch to threaten Marciano like archie did

 

Marciano might could beat Bellew. Each of these other guys stopped Marciano. If Tied "Tiger" Lowry a natural 170 pound boxer could hurt Maricano badly and toy with him then I can't imagine Marciano beating any half way decent 190 pound fighter.

 

Well looking up on the internet all the records show him as born in 1913 so I don't know what to believe.