Marciano with modern training

How did a thread about Marciano end up turning into Vitali/Chisora?

 

Theres some fighters whose threads i prefer not to post in.

Marciano is one of them normally.

See above for reasons why.

 

Pipe down, ****-for-brains.

You're a walkin' embarrassment !

 

Dino.

He's Churchill's definition of a fanatic.

One who CAN'T change his mind and WON'T change the subject.

 

Could Marciano back and legs get any bigger? His lats especially were huge..sign of awesome strength..im with Seamus king of cruisers if he was around today

 

Apparently the word over trained didn't apply to the Rock having read about his routine. He would have been bigger because of nutrition and some modern training that was taboo in his day like weights. But style wouldn't change his arms would still be short and fighters today would still be giants with long arms that could reach over his crouching.

Modern training methods in his day he would have lasted longer and may have fought til the 60's. He said his back gave him problems. With Modern training he would stand a better chance with Liston who had the size advantage.

 

Marciano was a great trainer who worked to his strengths. Short arms are better than long levers up close and in the tight spaces and I think he generated an incredible amount of force, beating guys down over long periods of sustained attack.
With modern training, weights and better mobility I see him as a tough proposition for anyone though he did cut and modern training doesn't make the skin any thicker....

 

If modern training could make Marciano a little quicker of foot and increase his handspeed then perhaps it would help but other than that I don't know what else it would do. Maybe some weight training could help him outmuscle some of the dreadnoughts that are out there today but this isn't wrestling or mma, it's boxing. Marciano's biggest problem wouldn't be getting stronger..he was strong enough. Or bigger meaning more muscular or heavier. Marciano's biggest problem would be that he would regularly be competing against men who on average are a lot taller with considerably longer reaches. Rocky would have to constantly work his way inside against these men and throw off fighters who today would outweigh him by 30-50lbs, not 15-20lbs. That's pretty tiring over the long haul but Rocky's conditioning and mental toughness would do him good. Against a grade B heavyweight with so so conditioning Rocky would would have a picnic. But against a 6'5" well conditioned HW with good skills and a huge reach advantage Rocky would be in for a long night...even if with "modern training" he bulked up some his basic dimensions wouldn't change...and therein lies the problem.

 

I dunno. Marciano was a specialist, and a pretty taut one at that. He expended more energy per minute than any of his opponents, made them expend energy faster than they liked, and he still had more than them at any given time during the match. Any changes you make are likely to backfire in my opinion.

Increase Marciano thirty pounds naturally with his engine intact and a few more inches in height, and he cleans up the entire division if his chin holds up against Wlad. It is populated with heavy punchers who are slow of foot and cannot live with someone who forces them to fight for three minutes of every round, has benchmark determination and is dreadfully difficult to knock out.

But that wouldn't be fair, because those attributes can't transfer, and a 220-pound man born with them would be extraordinarily blessed.

Increase Marciano's size and you degrade the boxer, imo.

Put him in the cruiserweights and he rules the roost.

 

He would be a cruiserweight.

 

Excellent way to put it. He was a rare alchemy.

 

Against your average modern behemoth lazy heavyweights Marciano's pressure and infighting would work even with his short arms but against the large conditioned fighters he would still be a short small slow heavyweight and have to deal with these 80inch+ reaches of todays top guys.