Margarito Clottey II

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  1. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well according to Williams himself, its pbf thats doing the ducking.:yep

    At least Margo already fought Williams, pbf studders at the thought.:deal
     
  2. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What? He was dominating, punishing, Margo for the first four rounds. If you claim otherwise you have no credibility.

    In between Round 4 and 5 is when he hurt his hand. I'm tired of keyboard warriors iike yourself saying that his hand wasn't hurt.

    So when he was complaining about it in his corner after round 4 and the rest of the fight, it was acting. WHen his punch rate dropped off 75% in round 5 and he stopped throwing consistently for the rest of the fight, it acting. When he grimaced in pain when the doctor squeezed his hand in round 10, it was acting. Get the **** over yourself delusional people. It wasn't as bad as he thought, but he obviously hurt it.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He is also 1-0 against Margo.
     
  4. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you telling me that his flinching and grimacing and complaining was acting ?

    Second, there was no evidence he was hurt to the body. He could have been, but I think its more likely a theory of yours, Champ.
     
  5. MacManJr.

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    Floyd is a natural lightweight and a legend at that weight might I add.
     
  6. MacManJr.

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    Margo always starts slow and finishes like a maniac. I have a ton of respect for him but he is just not a fast starter.
     
  7. Pimp C

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    It wasn't a fluke man. What you fail to understand is that Williams holds many stylistic advantges over margo.

    One being size and strenght he's bigger than Margo and just as strong meaning he can push him off and tie him up when need be. Two he fights from a southpaw stance Margo had trouble against that stance seeing punches and will have trouble again in the rematch. 3. Reach Williams can hit Margo at a distance keeping him away not allowing him to set up on the inside where he likes to work. Four speed he has faster handspeed tha Margo allowing him to get off first beating Margo to the punch. Five stamina Williams has better stamina than even Margo does the 12th round of their fight is an example of that. Six workrate Williams can outwork Margo effectively beating him at his own game. Seven footwork Williams manuvered at will against Margo and it was giving him fits. Even after 12 rounds he was just as lost as he was in the first as he was in the 12th by it.

    As you can see the deck is quite stacked against Margo you and others simple explanation that Margo will simply start faster won't cut it. he's been saying that forever and he didn't start fast against Cotto and he won't do it against Paul eithe because Paul won't allow him to. Not to mention Williams is younger and getting better and Margo is older and has peaked especially with his style. Williams by UD is the best choice here
     
  8. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have you seen Margo vs Cotto or Cintron2 :think if not go and see round 2 where he start's to do body and head work and back then he started to do that around round 6 or 7.
     
  9. MacManJr.

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    good point. He knew there was no way in hell cintron would beat him though.
     
  10. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    In the fight with Williams, Margarito spent too much time trying to land one punch on the counter. He waited on Paul to fall in or stop punching and that didn't happen.

    See how Margarito usually operates is that he wants you to throw first. That way he can test out what you have and if you have nothing he'll walk you down. That's probably also why he takes such a good shot because he never gets caught cold. Not anymore anyways.

    That Williams fight lit a fire under his ass. The way he came out against Johnson was something like an older version. He wasn't waiting on Johnson. He went right after him. That version showed up against Cotto as well. Even though Cotto is a much slicker, faster inside fighter, he was getting hit with lead hooks to the body from Margarito as they came together. And Margarito was strafing him with right hands as he was backing out. I'm talking early as round 2.

    Williams isn't Cotto for sure. He has a longer reach and more strength but he's also a much bigger and much more available target. If they do rematch I expect Margarito to force Williams. He won't wait like he did before he's gonna punch right along with him. And that makes a big difference. I've always thought his performance against Williams was an anomoly. Considering how he has fought before that one and done routine was definately not him. And no, it had nothing to do with Williams.
     
  11. Pimp C

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    Decent post up until this.:-( What do you mean it had nothing to do with Williams? It had everything to do with Williams:deal A green Willams was outworking him and beating him at his own game.
     
  12. Spitbucket

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    How can such a small sentence contain so much bull****:patsch

    "a green WIlliams":huh

    "beating him(margarito)at his own game.:huh

    :lol:
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who gives a ****? Instead of correcting my sentence structure how about correcting my analysis.:hi:
     
  14. Spitbucket

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    I don't give a crap about sentence structure, it's your "analysis" I was calling bull**** you dumbass:lol:
     
  15. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Well to be fair it was the amount of punches that Williams threw that won him the fight. However it was moreso Margarito's relaxed attitude of waiting on Paul that cost him the fight. The attitude in his corner that he was winning the fight also cost him.