Margarito could learn from Hatton

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Illstate, Dec 4, 2007.


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  1. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Get your facts straight, he was offered 1.4 million to fight Williams, and 1.4 million to fight Cotto. By going after the avoided Williams, if he had won he not only keeps his belt but also gets a double big pay with Cotto right after. :deal

    Margo is not afraid of anybody, he has been calling the big boys for a long time.
     
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  2. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    everyone nows that beating Golden Johnson proves that you deserve the big fights
     
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  3. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    It just doesnt make sense for the top wws to give Margarito a shot anymore. Why risk belts for no possible gain (and to fight a dangerous opponent on top of it). Too bad for Marg.....
     
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  4. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, but to be fair that was because Goosen won the purse bid and Margo got a career high payday to face Williams.

    BTW I agree with the thread starter. No one is going to take Tony seriously if he keeps KOing the Golden Johnsons and "Shotgun" Gomezes of the world and talking ****. I'm still shocked that Merchant started that "most feared man in boxing" hype again after he finished Johnson (who is shot to **** and didn't even throw any punches). This nonsense has passed the point of absurdity. If Tony wants big fights at this point, he's going to have earn it.
     
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  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So he dismantles in less than 3 minutes a former lightweight contender and who still upsets Lou Duva's welterweight prospects and he's not demanding a fight with actions in the ring? Mayweather doesn't want nothing with Tony - only Cotto or Mosley can fight this guy for real. Williams didn't mop the floor with Margo n doesn't give him a rematch either. Tony would simply eat JLC, Urango and Collazo altogether uncooked and in the same night.
     
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  6. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    You haters are ****ing dumb.

    Paul Williams is a middleweight at welterweight, to top it off he's also young and hungry. He barely got by Margarito so what the **** makes you think little Cotto or near-retired Mayweather want anything to do with him.

    And lets not forget Shane wanted nothing to do with Margarito either. There is a reason the man is avoided. And only the strong and hungry apply.

    Infact if there is a rematch between Williams and Margarito, don't anticipate the odds to be any different than the first fight.
     
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  8. Illstate

    Illstate Active Member Full Member

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    Bottom line is no matter how you feel about the guiy, You cant get beat that many times, and then get a win over someone like Golden Johnson, and think you're Elite status all of a sudden. Why not just beat Williams? That would help the case.
    I never said he wasn't avoided. The point is he makes himself so easy to be avoided because most fighters with his kind of record that are still considered marketable are fighters with losses to elite fighters.
    Even then the public gets done with them quick if they keep losing big fights, and not want to see them again.
    But Margarito loses not so big fights.
     
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  9. Illstate

    Illstate Active Member Full Member

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    HE could if he wanted to, but he doesn't have to fight him anywhere. The money is with the HAtton/MAyweather winner. That would be undefeated matchups right there.
    MArgarito does not fit anywhere in that category.
    YOu could give MArgarito a pass for the early career losses. But while you're chasing big money fights you simply can not lose the WIlliams fight.
    YOu kill yourself in marketability when you do that.
    I can remember 100's of posts about what kind of monster he was before the Williams fight.
    If he had won. The posts would have doubled.
    HE would be mentioned every time MAyweather , HAtton, or Cotto is mentioned.
     
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  10. scott is cool

    scott is cool Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he was half as good as Hatton or Mayweather he may get a few big fights.
     
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  11. Illstate

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    I think he's good enough, Not with technical skills. But his heart, stamina, and chin is good enough to compete.
    His only problem is if you're a dangerous fighter that people would want to avoid you have to make yourself unavoidable, or make yourself the man to beat.
    He makes himself avoidable by not being more marketable.
    If you look at Fernando Vargas's record people were saying he didn't deserve a shot anymore, and hid losses were to the likes od Mosley, and De La Hoya.
    The biggest name Margarito lost to was Paul Williams. Not taking anything away from Paul Williams HE will beat alot of fighters.
    But MArgarito has to win those fights in order to put himself out there like that.
    After all FLoyd MAyweather gets talked about for saying he's the best when he's undefeated in so many weight classes. How can Margaerito say he's feared by all and not get talked about when he was an L section on his record full of guys who were not afraid
     
    Illstate, Dec 5, 2007
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  12. BITCH ASS

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    Floyd ducked him.
     
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  13. Illstate

    Illstate Active Member Full Member

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    And I'm happy he did so. Margarito will have to earn it like Hatton did. Why couldn't he do that?
    Hatton is bringing a better record than Floyd, and He's coming off a K.O of a real a list all be it over the hill fighter.
    That's how you get attention. No one is gonna welcome you into the multi million dollar club. WHen you're not distancing yourself from the c level by much.
    I would certainly "Duck" Him and break a few PPV records while doing it.
     
    Illstate, Dec 5, 2007
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  14. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fraud ducked him only to run from Baldomir. :-(

    Baldy was given the shot at the linear title, and how the hell did he earn that?!?!?! He didnt, it was given to him. Maragarito clearly deserved the shot at Zab over Baldomir, only an idiot would not see this.

    Zab ducked Margarito after he crushed Cintron. Fraud ducked him leaving money on the table - for the greedy SOB to leave money to avoid a fight tells us everything we need to know.

    Any suggestion that Williams is a C-level fighter is just plain ignorance.
     
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