Margarito is back !!!

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  1. Rudyard

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    The ass whooping continues!:rofl
     
  2. Ring Master

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    They tried to pick on Tito and this puertorricane poster just shredded they whole story to ****!
     
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    "To me, Trindad's situation was much, much different than Margarito's. What Trindad did was actually legal in some places. It just wasn't legal in New York. I had the rulebook with me right there in my hand."

    "Trinidad was an abrasion against the rules. Margarito downright had a weapon. There is a difference when you say you're playing chess and have your men lined up differently, as opposed to having extra men on the board. Margarito tried to bring extra men. He had a knuckle pad. Margarito had a strip over the back of his hand, around his thumb and wrist. They told me it was because of a previous injury was why they wrapped it that way. One look and you could tell it wasn't right." - Nazim Richardson
     
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    :rofl:lol: When I read that...I damn spit up my drink!
     
  5. puertorricane

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    Basically, for the most part, the first thing I do is make a pad to protect the knuckles, because that is where most of the impact is going to come from. When you hit another fighter, the knuckles is where the force is going to come from. So, I make a large pad for my fighters with gauze and after that I use a total of five gauze, two for the wrap and one for the padding which is very important to protect the fighter's hands and then I use a large amount of tape that I wrap the boxer's hands with the tape after the wrap is done, you know, make sure that their hands feel secure, not too tight and then I make strips of tape, not to build a cast, that's probably what they are talking about in reference to Tito Trinidad because each trainer has a specific amount of tape that they like to use.

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    , and in that sense I don't feel...only thing you can do is if you put metal or if you do something like what Panama Lewis did, with the padding of the gloves, that's something totally different.

    But we are talking about when you wrap a guy's hand the commission should be there to mandate the amount of tape you are going to wrap around the hand. The tape is there basically to protect the fighter's hands. Once you use the gauze and once you start taping, there is no longer any gauze.

    BRC: Does each camp get same exact amount of gauze and tape?

    JM: That, in that sense is not really true because each trainer, while they have a standard by which you are only allowed to use so much gauze, each trainer has his own amount of gauze that he brings in and of course some can get away with using more, some can get away with using less. Some fighters like using even less, and the trainer himself has to bring the gauze, not necessarily the commissioner or the state. In that sense u have a little independence to use it freely, but the one thing that is true in every state is that there is an appointed representative from the commission of that state, to watch, to watch as the hands are being wrapped.

    BRC: In your experience, both as a fighter and now as a trainer, your years in boxing, have you ever felt that you could not trust the person appointed by the commission to observe the wrapping of the opponent's hands? Have you ever felt uncomfortable in any sense with that?

    JM: In my own experience, no. I feel that the only thing you can really do is if you take the padding out of the gloves, or you could use excessive amounts of tape, but there are rules and regulations that stipulate that you can only use one roll of tape. Of course, some of the Commission's people are a bit more lenient because it is for the protection of the fighter, but they know when...I mean, a lot of the Commission's people are ex-fighters, they might be a little bit lenient but they won't allow anyone to go berserk with the amount of tape that they are using. And plus, you can't even really protect the knuckles, only way you can protect the knuckles is with padding, you can't tape the knuckles.


    BRC: Based on what you have explained to me, is it a fair statement to say that a bit more gauze, a bit less gauze, it's not going to affect the impact of the punch?

    JM: That's pretty much right. The gauze has nothing to do with it, like I said the gauze is basically there to protect the fighters. Some fighters don't like too much gauze, they like to feel they can almost feel their hands when they hit a person. Some fighters are like that, they don't care about gauze. Gauze is to protect the hands, the only thing that changes anything is the amount of tape that you use, that may help the impact a little bit but at the same time, you are only protecting the fighters hands, it doesn't make you a better puncher.

    BRC: If one of your fighters got knocked out badly and came to you and said, wow! I had never been hit like that before, that guy punches funny. Would your immediate response be that the opponent's gloves were loaded?

    JM: No, I would probably say you have never been in there with a guy that punches that hard. One thing is that Felix Trinidad is a proven puncher, I mean he has proven that throughout his whole entire career, as a welterweight, at 154...Maybe these guys have never been in with a guy that punches like Trinidad on a consistent basis, and that is my honest feeling. I don't think the hands wrap would have made any difference in the Hopkins fight, Hopkins had his number that night. I think Trinidad is a devastating puncher no matter what kind of wrap he's got on.


    BRC: I have one last question for you... You were a fighter, you are now a trainer, you come from a family of good fighters...Do you feel that it's fair to write an article questioning a guy's integrity, the accomplishments of his career, questioning the commissions that he has fought under based on the comments of three guys that got knocked out by this one person?

    JM:
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    On that note, here is Aladdin Freeman's closing statement:

    I think when you come out with a story like Mr. Kim did, you must put a lot of thought into what you are writing because accusing Trinidad's people of doing something illegal when there isn't really any uniform rule about hand wrapping isn't fair to the fighter or his people. It is also a great disservice to Trinidad and everyone he's fought along the way, trying to tarnish his forty straight wins by saying he's been cheating this whole time.

    I've now heard three different accounts of what happened. First was Bernard Hopkins, who was lead to believe that all Trinidad had was tape on his hands, Hopkins told me this first hand (no pun intended). The next thing I heard was that Trinidad used layers and layers of tape and gauze on his hands and finally I read and heard Tito used a foam around his knuckles.

    Furthermore, in trying to discredit Trinidad and his handlers Mr. Kim only interviewed three of his last four opponents, all of which gave Tito his props after the fight was over, then after this issue came up, decided to join in and come out with their own "allegations". Why 'weren't Mamadou Thiam, Oscar De La Hoya, Pernell Whitaker and Hugo Pineda questioned? Was it because all except Pineda finished on their feet?

    If a fighter is in forty fights, more than half championship fights where the supervision is more severe, don't you think if the guy is cheating or loading his hands, that he'd have been caught by now? My last question is, almost after every fight Trinidad is the first guy to take his gloves off, but keeps his tape on.

    If he and his father were trying to cheat don't you think he'd cut the tape and everything off?
     
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    Damn, This is just a massacre.
     
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    :rofl
     
  10. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl You clownin.....
     
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    :rofl:lol::rofl:lol:
     
  12. Rudyard

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    Have you seen this yet???:lol:

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120136[/url]
     
  13. freddy-wak

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    so if i kill you with my hands then with a gun, it's different :-:)-(

    **** no, even his dad said it took "power" away when wrapped the other way which happens to be the right way.......
     
  14. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

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    Yes Freddy, it is different.
     
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    :lol: I forgot about it. 32 pages of laughter.