Margarito vs Cotto

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  1. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    :rofl

    I'll tell you it's probably already figured.

    Cotto can bang against unproven guys like Quintana who we really havent seen take punishment from anyone but Cotto. But when he fought Mosley that and the Judah fight showed that he is not a monsterous puncher. Also in the Gomez fight I think it showed that Cotto does more damage because he pinpoints shots that most people just catch glancing.

    The problem with Margo is that everyone catches him flush and it doesn't even move him. There is not one punch in Cotto's arsenal besides the left hook to the body that can do significant damage. And if he depends on that too much he's going to eat a huge uppercut. One of Margo's best punches is the uppercut (ask Lujan's ear).

    For all reasons given Margo really screwed up against Williams. Had he started early like he should have, Williams would not have lasted the distance. He was already a beaten man by the 11th and we're talking a damn middleweight here. No way little ass Cotto can absorb what Williams did.

    He's gonna have to move in this one. And I think he already knows it. He's gonna have to hope that he can get in between Margo's shots as Margo is stepping in and land some body punches. But what seems likely is that he'll run and jab and do whatever he can to avoid exchanges over 12. He can win going that way but it won't be slaughter nor beatdown.
     
  2. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Head-to-head, I think Miguel Cotto is better in most fields of boxing.

    Consider he is a faster, better combination puncher than Margarito is. He also hits as hard if not harder, to the head and body. Both can punch, obviously, but I see better competition on Cotto's record (compare wins over Mosley, Judah, Gomez and Quintana to Margarito's over Six Heads Lewis, Cintron, and Clottey).

    I think a very big weapon here is the Cotto jab. He can fight at a distance and keep it there, where as Cintron just could not do that. Margarito is hell on the inside, but I see Cotto handling himself well on the inside, and maintaining range with his jab/footwork.

    Cotto UD12 Margarito.
     
  3. Samurai

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    Judah has one of the best combinations of speed and power, it's just that mentally, he falls apart.

    Margarito might have the edge in brute force, but Judah being fast AND powerful makes him more devastating in my opinion.
     
  4. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Judah struggled with ordinary guys like Rafael Pineda and then dropped the belts to Carlos Baldomir and looked pretty equal to light punching Cory Spinks who besides his boxing ability is not a big guy himself.

    Judah besides being unified was not this monster at 147lbs he's made out to be. He actually struggled long before Baldomir.

    Two guys faced 10-1 underdogs during that season. Margo knocked out Gomez in 1 round and Judah lost a SD to Carlos Baldomir. Those back to back fights said a lot about who was the real top dog at welterweight. The guy Judah wanted no part of.
     
  5. Canadianfan

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    I liked Judah's power better at 140, he's still got pop at 147, but I don't think his opponents remember his shots like they remember Margarito's, Much like a Cotto punch, every single one lingers with you and wears you down. I would say they have different kinds of power, I can't definitely say one has more power than the other.
     
  6. El Matador

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    For perspective, at this point, who would you prefer, though: Judah or Cintron, head-to-head?:?
     
  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Clarify please.
     
  8. Canadianfan

    Canadianfan Active Member Full Member

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    I love the idea of this fight on an undercard! I think I'd take Cintron by devasting knock out in 8.
     
  9. El Matador

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    I forgot what I was thinking.:huh

    Something about comparing Judah and Margarito, in terms of Welterweight talent.

    At this point Margarito pulls ahead and Judah is on his way down, I wonder how Judah would do comparatively in a fight with Kermit Cintron.

    Judah did give Cotto a hell of a fight not too long ago.
     
  10. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Ah I see.

    Judah is not a guy who can apply pressure over a significant amount of time against a target with real power. He got away with it somewhat against Spinks but Spinks is not a big puncher. He also moves backwards which helps Judah land that short left.

    Cintron would stand his ground and I see alot of Judah lunging in and grabbing. Cintron is physically much bigger than Judah and I can see Judah start to move backwards instinctually which puts him right in range of Cintron's power. I don't think Cintron is accurate enough to catch Judah going backwards (for the TKO) but he can score points.

    Cintron is the type of guy that if you don't bug him he really shines. And he may get Judah out of there in under 8 rounds but I'll go with a UD. I think his power and size deter any hope for a Judah victory.
     
  11. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto will win by close decision.
    Anyone remember Clottey-Margarito?
     
  12. El Matador

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    Sounds about right.:good

    Unfortunately, Judah doesn't seem to use his fast footwork the way he should. He should be a very good boxer, but he tends to start punching and holding when things go wrong. It hapenned with Cotto, after a blazing start, hell it even hapenned with Carlos Baldomir.

    Which brings back the question of Margarito fighting Miguel Cotto. Margarito is taller (four inches, to be exact). That could be a real factor, considering Margarito has a fine uppercut.
     
  13. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    I remember Clottey hitting Margo only upstairs and nothing clean landing downstairs.

    I also remember Clottey having a high guard and not comitting much to the body which would have left him open to the uppercut.

    And I also remember a very defensive Clottey getting battered late in the fight almost taking a knee from the punishment he was absorbing on his arms. The very next round he biked his way around the ring.
     
  14. Spitbucket

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    That's right, didn't think about that.

    There's a chance that Cotto might hurt his hands against the tough as nails Margarito, then he might have a hard time outpointing him:good
     
  15. walk with me

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    miguel cotto tko/ko in less than 10