Margarito Vs Cotto's 'elite' Opposition?

Speculations. You can't know who would win or if they would struggle. You might be right. Or might not. I don't like imagining fights.

 

Cotto v former/current champions: (he's undefeated)
Malignaggi
Quintana
N'dou
Mosley
Judah
Torres
Corley
Maussa
Bailey

Margarito v Current/Former champions: (he has 5 losses)
Cintron (W x2)
Williams (L)
Santos (NC, L)
Lewis (W)
Randall (W)

 

uh "no" I can name fighter past and present that didn't have KO power but were able to box effectively ..

cory spinks , chirs bird , paul spadafora , willie pep , skill speed and timing can off set any opponent no matter who hard they hits ,effective boxing can be done with out the use of punching power ..
fighters like this are also avoided because the tend to make there opponents look bad ..

Im not sure why you guys are so hung up on punching power and chin durability , IMO its a blind confidence ,, it only mean your fighter will be able to sustain a beating while waiting for the opportunity that may or may not come for them to land the one big shot.

Randal Tex Cobb had a inhuman ability to take punishment and a titanium chin, along with a decent swat but it made little difference when he faced a skill fighter like holems.

 

It isn't just about chin or punching power. It is also about confidence and determination.

Byrd might not be the biggest puncher out there but he has stunned quite a few heavies and knocked some out. He isn't all pillow punches. And that is pretty evident as to how he is respected in most heavyweight fights. Same for James Toney.

Cory Spinks has no punching power but he makes fights sloppy and ugly. He will use speed to land and then grab inside. And he does this all night to win fights. No he doesn't avoid guys all night, so he has to use the grab routine to balance it out.

By and large most guys in each division respect another guy even if he isn't known for being a puncher. Because it can still happen. But every once in awhile a banger comes along who will not respect punching power and will throw without concern. Mayorga to Forrest. Ibeabuchi to Byrd. Fraizer to Ali. The list goes on and on.

Margarito has proven to be one of those guys who will not go away. Santos, a much bigger and stronger guy than anyone Cotto has faced could not turn Margarito away even after landing his sunday punch. Ditto for Cintron and Williams.

 

Right now the only thing that matters is what happens tomorrow night. soon enough there will be no more need to argue. Why can't you ****ers just sit back and enjoy a fight without getting all hot and bothered cause someone thinks that a different guy will win?

 

I have this from another thread.

Looking at their key opponents (Cotto has Mosley, Judah, Quintana, Torres while Margarito has Cintron, Williams, Clottey, Santos) and how they handled them, I'm leaning to pick Margarito as the winner in this fight. Cotto looked vulnerable at times against Mosley, Judah and Torres while Margarito handled his key opponents just like his other fights. Even in his losing efforts to Williams and Santos, Margarito didn't looked like a real loser.

I've seen Mosley hammering Cotto with right hooks and uppercuts, Judah troubling Cotto with his speed and combos (tho Margo is a turtle) and Torres wobbling Cotto with a power punch. Margarito can do all of that except the speed. Margarito also looks like so obssessed with this fight that he will give it all. I'm worried about Cotto's chances in this fight.

Margarito just need to match Cotto punch for punch in the early rounds for I can see him controlling the later rounds.

I think Margarito will prevail via late TKO/KO.

 

:roll:

When did you start watching boxing? Yesterday?

 

Margarito does not bite iron or chew steel , he has been wobbled and cut , when you use a style like margarito's , just coming forward and throwing punches with lack of defence, it tend work against you then for you especially against a fighter of cotto caliber, margartio style will help cotto more then it will help margarito.

There only been one fighter that has been able to use this reckless style and retire undefeated and that rocky marciano and margarito is no Rocky.

Cotto will only exploit margarito reckless come forward and make him pay ,
by taking advantages of the gaps margarito's defense to score.

cotto smart enough know , to not try and KO margartio , because that would only put him in harms way.
Look for Cotto to out score margarito and use his much in improved boxing skill to do just enough to get win.

 

Yea Clottey gave Margarito 4 good rounds. A championship fight is 12 rounds. Try again.

 

Pit, you are missing the point entirely here.

Margarito might be a guy that can be knocked out, but nobody at 147 has ever come close to doing so. Has he hit the canvas? Yes. Was he ever really hurt? No. Infact he has gotten up and won every one of those fights. And in recent years, adulthood, he hasn't been knocked down.

If big guys like Santos and Williams and Cintron could not hurt Margarito enough to get his respect then Cotto is in alot of trouble. As I stated before it's not easy to box a guy who doesn't respect you. Forrest is obviously a better boxer than Mayorga, but what happened there? What happened to Ali when Fraizer wouldn't go away? What happened to Byrd when Ibeabuchi wouldn't respect him?

You already know the answer to that. And the fact is that a guy who doesn't respect you, who jumps on you and pummels you wherever he can land is very hard to box. Margarito is one of those guys. And that would explain why even in winning, an accomplished boxer like Santos took alot of damage. Infact Margarito beat on Santos worse than Alcine did. Whatever makes you think he is going to respect a much smaller Miguel Cotto is baffling. He won't. Mark my words.

 

So Clottey was beating Margo for 4 rounds untill he hurt his hand. So by your logic you dont see Clottey ever troubling Margarito, EVER. OK, now try to explain yourself. You contradict yourself. How can 4 good rounds (in your opinnion, since in everyone elses opinnion it were 4 roudns in wich Clottey was winning) equal "I Dont see Clottey... ever troubling Margarito"

atsch

 

Hinge your argument on semantics, I don't care.

If Clottey ever gets a rematch with Margarito he is gonna get knocked out. That I am certain of.

 

Why?

What did you see in the first fight tha makes you think that?

What i saw was a fighter in Clottey who figured our Margo, and Margo looked like he could not adjust. If he did, then maybe he can beat him. But on that night, if Clottey did not hurt his hand, I think Clottey would have won a wide UD.

I do think that Margo is a tougher fight for Cotto than Clottey will be. But really good boxers give margo trouble and will beat him. Cotto is a really good boxer. Cintron is not.