Margarito VS Mayweathers last 4 opponents?

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  1. NALLEGE

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    You say the same old crap to every fan who gives their opinion that does not agree with you. You are like a guy who ate spoiled chicken, and doesn't have any Pepto around. You aren't going to agree with them anyway, and you'll probably shite all over the place with your pitiful insults..lol
     
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    How did you break your legs so badly...skiing...??? lol, just kidding.
     
  3. sambob

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    Floyd won't have to avoid 100 punches per round though. Margarito won't throw that many. Look at Hopkins's last two fights. Both times he fought fighters known for throwing that many punches every round. But in the first third of the calzaghe fight, and all twelve rounds of the Pavlik fight, neither fighter threw as many punches as they're known for. Hopkins fought them in a way so that they couldn't throw as many punches as they wanted. Well, they could, but they'd look pretty silly sitting there throwing punches at air!

    Floyd can and would do the same thing. Every fighter Floyd's faced has thrown fewer punches than they usually did. Look at Hatton during the second half of his fight with Floyd, he was just wandering around looking confused. Floyd keeps his opponents from getting set to throw punches. Cotto proved that Margarito has to be set properly to throw punches. When Cotto finally slowed down towards the end of their fight... Margarito was able to hit him at well, with combinations, to the head and body. The only way Margarito would be able to do this, is if Floyd stood right in front of him (not gonna happen), Floyd ran out of gas (Floyd has never done this, ever), or if he could catch Floyd against the ropes (I see him getting Floyd there a couple times a round, but not being able to land anything before Floyd gets out of the way, and even against the ropes, he will be hesitant to throw).

    In addition to using his superb footwork (lateral movement, both to his left and right), when Margarito is nealy set to throw, Floyd throws jabs to the body, which when they're used accurately and hard (which is just how Floyd throws them to the body) are very effective. Margarito is a tall fighter, and would be a perfect target for them. Also, one of Floyd's best offensive weapons is his right hand lead. He throws it only when he feels he can catch a guy off guard though. When fighters aren't expecting it. And even when he does, he disguises it, so you don't know its coming at you until its almost there already. Floyd is a master at this. I've seen nothing in Margarito's game that makes me think he could avoid these. All of these other things, will make it even harder for Margarito to get off with his punches. every time he tries to really put something on his punches, he will either be getting hit, or Floyd will suddenly not be there to be hit.

    Fighters with the style of Margarito are an easy stylistic match up for Floyd. Now, its possible that Margarito could overcome these things, but thats just how I see the fight going.
     
  4. sambob

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    Car wreck. Head on collision on a highway. Both femurs in several places, tibia + fibia on the right leg, almost all my ribs, my spleen was bleeding so badly they had to embolize it (no longer functional), part of my liver was permanently damaged.

    To make matters worse, I became an opiate addict afters years of strong pain killers for my hands and my back (unrelated... a defect in my right lumbar area of the spine), and I relapsed after being on IV dilaudid in the hospital every three hours for over a week, and then being on fentanyl (100 mcg/hour/day) patches and oxycodone tablets for several weeks after leaving the hospital. I'm not saying it wasn't my fault, but all the sudden going from being detoxed, to physically dependent on opiates again, well it just made it that much harder, even though I was still going to meetings (NA and AA) 3-5 times a week. Though I can't stand AA/NA meetings for the most part.
     
  5. eze

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    Exactly how I see it.
     
  6. r_9-Ronaldo

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    If Margarito could beat somebody like say Jermain Taylor or Mikkel Kessler and then Chad Dawson, that'd be more of a comparision as to natural weight vs accomplishments, Money May said he never had problems making the lower weights and could've continued but he moved up for bigger fights(or bigger $$$$)
     
  7. mexican legend

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  8. CarlesX7

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    VS Hatton - KO4
    VS DLH - pick em
    VS Baldomir - TKO12
    VS Judah - KO5

    :good
     
  9. r_9-Ronaldo

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    also I'm not sure if the dlh that fought mayweather would lose to margarito, dlh is iron jawed and would definatelly be the hardest hitter margarito has ever faced, he equal if not better punch and skill set than cintron and cotto and he could possibly beat margarito.
     
  10. eze

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    Possibly? He would beat him. Margo is not good at 154 and that's where DLH would fight him.
     
  11. CarlesX7

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    That's why I said "pick em". :thumbsup
     
  12. elTerrible

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    :think Margo aint exactly hard to hit. DLH certainly hits harder than Cotto. He doesnt always get a KO, but he has good power if he can land a real good flush hook.

    Margo has a solid chin, but even granite chin guys can get stopped by the ref if they get staggered, hurt and stop throwing shots back and takign too many flush.
     
  13. elTerrible

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    That sucks mate. And that has to be difficult being a former addict and then needing narcotics for legitament medical reasons.

    AA only works for certain people. Not everyone is religious and its not going to work for them. I know it wouldnt be convincing for me.
     
  14. cpnasty

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    Margo wouldn't KO Baldomir
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    You define too much on a guy with a belt Scar. Just because you beat Baldomir for the World Title doesn't make it a great win and it doesn't make him a great champ. Say what you will about Margarito, but he was beating top ranked WW's. Not picking on the weakest WW champ ever. And we both know that is what Baldomir was. It's like many think because Baldomir was the undispouted Champ, he was some really good fighter. No. Before he fought Judah, he was even LOWER then Margarito. It's all about who gets the shot. Do you think ANYONE would pick Baldomir over Magarito, or even say he was a great WW then Margarito? Not really. Baldomir is the 147 Douglas. One and done and never heard from again. Point being, and you really should agree with this, ONE WIN does not make you the best of a whole division, especially when others have done more. And I know we, as fans, make a bigger deal out of a linear belt, or a WBC over a WBO. But what it really comes down to is WHO you beat. Is Sugar Ray Leanard a better SprMW then Calzaghe because he held more division titles?

    And you seem to make a big deal out of Margarito ONLY getting a big win NOW as meaning he just got good. How many times do us boxing fans see guys who are really good, NOT get big fights because name fighters did not have to fight them? Did Hagler only become a top MW when he beat big names? Did Winky only become one of the best JrMW's ONLY when he beat Shane?

    You might be right on Mayweather being the fave. But that's made by oddsmakers. Not necessarily people in boxing. I think the odds would be pretty close. They WILL take him inactivy into account. As well as margarito's rise.