Marguez should be above Floyd in P4P ranking

No floyd hater like your self are blind to the fact, that floyd is faster than marquez at any weight, his defense is going to be better at any weight PERIOD !!!

Your also blind to the fact that floyd is not a physical fighter that uses his size and strength in a fight but more of a thinking fighter that uses traps and speed and timing.. fighting in the trenches is not floyd style unless the opportunity present itself or he hard pressed.. The same with marquez.. they are both boxer who need to be pressed by the other fighter for them to exploit opening.. if not pressed the will box your ****ing ears off.

 

Marquez has never been known for his speed at any weight, especially when compared to a Mayweather or a Pacquiao.

Floyd would have fought the same fight, but more aggressive at 130lbs. Do I think he could stop Marquez? Probably not, this is a guy who got knocked down by Pacquiao 3 times in the 1st round. Mayweather wins UD in a lot more competitive bout, with the weight a lot more even.

You do realize Mayweather isn't a natural 147lber don't you? You know he started off at 130lbs?

Just because one boxer can climb X amount of weight divisions, doesn't mean every boxer can, or every boxer should. Climbing weight divisions is not the only measure of greatness...take a look at Hagler.

 

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Generally, I don't hear this argument for FIVE DIVISION CHAMPIONS. Generally......

Speaking of Pacquiao... If he's so great, why didn't he fight a legitimate 154 pound champion instead of fighting for a vacant championship against a fighter who has never been a contender at 154 pounds? Is he REALLY a 154 pound champion? Cotto was also a "vacant belt champion" when Pacquiao fought him as well and had a belt by virtue with a win over the GREAT Michael Jennings. Another Bob Arum orchestration I might add. Clottey had NEVER won a championship and is a career gatekeeper with 1 KO in his last 13 bouts. He also fought the least threatening champion at 135 pounds as well. (Not saying he would have lost to Juan or Casa, but they would have been better fights than David F'ing Diaz.)

It is amazing to me how nobody questions the actions of Bob Arum and his match-making, because they love Pacquiao so much. I've been a Pacquiao fan his ENTIRE CAREER, not a bandwagon guy like most of these kids, and I'll tell you straight up: they are protecting him, he is their cash cow. The guy could fight a cab driver and sell a PPV because he's so popular. After all, what is not to like about Manny? That has nothing to do with Bob Arum however.....the guy is a snake and he is in charge of Manny's fight selection.

 

why the hell did this thread became who is better between JMM vs PBF when they fight?

its about their P4P rankings ffs...

u can't rank P4P by taking who is better when they fight coz if thats the case
Klitscko's should be on top...

 

He has never been known for his speed, his timing and range is excellent...Mayweather would have the advantage in speed on him from 130lbs to 147lbs.

Marquez and his trainer made the mistake of bulking up with what looked like artificial muscle for the Mayweather bout. Did it affect his speed? Slightly. Would that extra speed he lost affect the outcome of the bout, or made it more competitive? I highly doubt it, maybe slightly.

Why did I think I could even have a serious debate with you? You just avoided what I said because you have no reply. At least try and debate...not everyone on here is caught up in the whole '*****' '*******' shite...''.

 

Yeah well your opinion has no insight what so ever. your just bumping your gum with absolutely no knowledge at all, so there is a difference between my opinion and your .. mine is based on the obvious and boxing knowledge, your is based BS and hater aid .. it should have been obvious too you that floyd fight with Marquez was not physical fight but rather a chess match so size and strength does not add into the equation at all, because of their respected styles. Floyd just plain out boxed marquez with out having to get his hands dirty .

Second Floyd would school Martinez if they met at a catch weight, Martinez started boxing at age 20 and he is 35 now, do you really think he has the skill to deal with a skilled fighter like floyd at a catch weight .. Please dude get real. Martinez KO another late starter to the sport that make way too many mistake and has no real experience fighting south paws. Williams was KO because he drops his lead hand, which is a mistake he can do against a convectional but against another southpaw it like have no D at all which Williams does not ..

 

You make 2 much sense man, u dont belong here. :good

 

You're right Hagler failed to KO a smaller Duran and a lil history for you Duran is considered a greater fighter than Hagler. So if you wanna compare that to Floyd and Marquez then you're not exactly proving your point.

Size makes a difference especially when one guy is a boxer who stays on the outside and his opponent has to get in close. It's alot harder to get in close against a guy who has 10-15lbs on you than a guy who is the same size. So don't give me that **** about "size didn't make a difference".

And Pac fought Marquez at 126 and 130 which is 4 and 3 division lower than Floyd so how can you even compare Pac not stopping JMM to Floyd not stopping JMM.

You're the one who obviously doesn't understand **** about boxing.

 

NO you don't understand,, even if floyd and marquez fought at 130 or 126 floyd will still keep the fight to the outside, he will still be to fast and he defense will be too much for marquez and both fighter will still be counter puncher.. adding or subtracting weight is not going to make them change their respected styles Period!!!!! your not going to get too counter puncher to press each other what cant you understand.. Floyd would not have KO marquez at any weight and marquez would still get out boxed by floyd at any weight.


Duran is considered a great Lt weight with extraordinary skills which is why hagler was grate middle weight with extraordinary skills its just that marvin was better .. there is nothing wrong with mavin no koing Duran even though Marvin trashed other more durable middle weight including Hitman who decimated duran. morale of the story .. contrasting style .. the same issue with marquez and floyd.

And yes you can compare pac at 126 and 130 when he fought marquez.. Pac was still KOing fighter at 126 and 130 nothing changed with pac style other than he gotten
bigger.


and y do you sound mad.. ?