Marquez’s Debut Was @ Featherweight

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  1. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, but more like a great WW vs. a great SFW. This fight is a joke.
     
  2. warriorking

    warriorking Active Member Full Member

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    On nov. 14th its a good welter vs. a Great fighter.!!! Pacs a soldier, He could handle anything!! Ive been a fan of his for a long time.... Even when He beat one of my all time favorite fighters marco antonio barrera
     
  3. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its more like a great natural 140 pounder verse a great natural 130 pounder.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch He for ****'s sake.
     
  5. maryann

    maryann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, size difference will be small. Marquez being naturally smaller will be forced to bloat his body while floyd need not to do anything unusual to his weight being natural small welter.
     
  6. carias

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    Not when floyd has grown out of weight classes as he has gotten older and marquez has resorted to bulking up in his mid 30's to climb up the ladder.
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats a load of ****. Some of you cats will come up with an excuse for anything. Would it have made a difference had JMM fought a bum at 140 then a bum at 147??? Nope you would still be making the same excuses...In this day and age fighters are killing themselves to make lower weights which is the reason that you see fighters moving up in weight and you not really seeing a huge size difference...Question is for all you cats making excuses, should JMM win will you be making the excuse that Floyd is rusty from his near two year layoff??? I think not...Stop with all the ****ing excuses already.
     
  8. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd has never outgrown a weightclass, he moved up chasing bigger paydays there is a difference
     
  9. Scar

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    I don't know about other posters they can say what they wish. All I'm saying is that even though Marquez is moving up two divisions, it doesn't mean he's dead meat just based on that and the Pac/DLH fight was a good enough example. An elite fighter's skill is what carries him as he moves up and faces bigger opponents, that's something Mayweather has done anyway.
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly, care to remind us how Margarito makes the entire universe stutter when he's not sleeping?

    Thanks.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    You have no proof of that. He chose not to, not that he cant.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Marquez has stated he weighs 143.

    He's gained 2lbs.
     
  13. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And thats really the only reason why the fight isn't ridiculous. If a big welterweight like Mosley went out of his way to fight a natural 130 pounder, it would be ridiculous. But Floyd isn't a natural welterweight.

    The fact is the thread is stretching to find grounds for the fight being evenly matched. Using the closeness of their original weight classes is like saying Manny Pacquiao and Ivan Calderon should hop into the ring together, it doesn't hold any merit whatsoever. Marquez has fought above 130 two times and has shown deteriorated defensive capabilities, getting hit a lot more and dropping plenty of rounds to a well past it Casamayor and a game but limited Juan Diaz. Floyd has been fighting above 130 pounds for near on a decade.

    Its difficult to argue that Marquez compares to Floyd in a p4p sense, let alone including the weight advantage. I don't have a problem with the fight because Mayweather isn't a big welterweight, he isn't getting any younger, and he hasn't fought in some time, but people need to stop trying to justify the fight with incredibly flawed "facts" about the weight difference.
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    The weight difference is there and is definitely an advatange for Mayweather, no one can/should deny that. Though the size difference isn't as BIG as many try to make it look, there is an advantage there but not a "game breaking" one. Mayweather doesn't overpower opponents, that's not his style of fighting anyway.

    I don't know about others but I don't think anyone is trying to "justify" the fight, this is a good fight in my opinion and it's no different than when DLH called out Pac or Cotto calling out Pac to move up. This isn't the first time something like this happens in boxing for people to try and make this fight look like a "circus" or a worthless one, it's a good win for whoever takes it. The ones that tried to make DLH/Pac look like a circus are the ones who ended up being the clowns. This is boxing, you have two hands and serious skills then of course you have a chance.

    Anyway, I get your point 100%. At least you're trying to be objective and open minded with your thoughts unlike other trolls and I appreciate that. The fight is one week away so let's see how this goes. :good
     
  15. rccwilliams

    rccwilliams Sippin' on some sizzurp Full Member

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    He didn't eat for four days before his last fight at SFW, to make weight.