Marquez-Pacquiao Robbery Thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by eze, Nov 12, 2011.


  1. yagbols

    yagbols Member Full Member

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    I am saying that unless their is a written guidance on how to score boxing (much like a rule book), decision will be subjective. There will be no clear winner unless it is a KO/TKO. Put a rule book out there for judges to comply with; so that their decisions will be consistent.
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    To begin with it was 2, not 3 that robbed Jmm. A draw would of been fair, but when the majority of fans dn't agree AND the favored fighter has so many advantages it almost looks like bringing a knife to a gunfight and still can't even dominate a guy he was supposed to ko within 3 rounds thats when a light bulb in your head is supposed to turn on and think "maybe not as good as we all thought." I think Manny shoulda just given Jmm the respect he deserved and give him some credit, but I blame more the assholes around him. Manny will always win the judges vs Marquez but never the fight. Manny believed his own hype and once again the majority picked Jmm as the victor. Should worry more about handling business vs Marquez in a 4th bout. Instead of erasing doubts he created more.
     
  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey caneman :hi:
     
  4. Thomas!!

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    lol cool
     
  5. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Judges are trained and licensed by commissions. The nature of boxing however is that there will always be inconsistent decisions, and there's no way of simply driving out every single subjective element in any sport that involves judging. Neither of these things however means that fans should simply defer to the wisdom of judges, nor are they not allowed to cry foul play in response to certain outcomes.
     
  6. yagbols

    yagbols Member Full Member

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    Are you saying that you are against the standardization of scoring? That will prevent all this drama and cry that boxing is down the drain because of the corrupt judges; promoter; etc.
     
  7. boxinger

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    :happy
     
  8. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was disappointed but it doesn't mean he didn't believe he won.
     
  9. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes. Amateur scoring would make boxing even more unpopular than it is right now. Punch quality should always be relevant, and there's no way to "objectively" measure that. Additionally, as many a weird Compubox tally has indicated, the mere counting up of punches can also be subject to manipulation (or at least results that do not conform to what the viewer has witnessed).
     
  10. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    :scaredas: :huh :rofl :deal
     
  11. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    WOW its very rare. You are a true boxing fan. Fair is Fair, Marquez was robbed.Even though you have that FLoyd Avatar, you finally recognize PAC has holes in his game and is very beatable by a technical boxer.
     
  12. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    No Mexican would say that, bull****.
     
  13. yagbols

    yagbols Member Full Member

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    Then the judges should not be abused about all this robbery **** if they scored the fight based on what they saw. After all, there is not clear guidance; all is subjective, based on their preference and/or favored style of fighting.
     
  14. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I said above, "Geez, there's a wide range of possibilities between having the most rigid standards and having complete subjectivity reign." You are creating a false dichotomy. Let me reiterate that judges are given criteria to score on: clean punching, effective aggression, riing generalship, and defense, with priority always being given to clean and effective punching above all else. Judgment of these things will never be boiled down to an exact science, but fans are damn well justified for criticizing scores they see as not accurately reflecting these criteria based on what went on in the ring.
     
  15. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    By this logic Mosley KD Pacquiao...