Marquez vs Pacquiao III will be an Extremely close fight

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    No he does'nt have to keep his butt off the canvas.....

    .....Marquez can win 10 rounds, get knocked down once, and have hopes at the end of the fight to get a draw out of it!:deal

    .....and I'm being brute honest about it.:?
     
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    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    How so?
     
  3. Timothy

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    i'll be dissappointed if pacquio does not ko marquez. if wouldn't give pacquio full credit if he ko's juan manuel simply because marquez should stay at 135lbs...
     
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    Pictures are hardly a scientific basis for things such as comparative measurements of body frames. A simple thing like a bad/good camera angle can make one person look bigger than another. You'd need better proof than that.
     
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    he has carried his frame better as u see his muscle size got bigger and kept the fat off something jmm couldnt do as seen in the floyd fight. plus, he maintained his speed and did not lose much power either. u see in his fights against clottey, mosley, they refused to fight him because his speed and esp. power bothered them. then, again i have no proof that he is on them, but, makes u wonder
     
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    Pac's move to WW was more gradual than JMM's in 2009, which means he has more time to bulk up and allow his body to settle in to a higher weight. So that's not a good comparison. Besides, Pac really didn't gain all that much weight since 2008, if we look at his fight night weights since that time.
     
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    The pictures by themselves are not proof, but they certainly go a ways to suggest that Pacquiao is on something.

    I certainly would think that either Marquez or Morales could put on extra weight in the form of lean mass if they used PED's than if they did not.
     
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    Pacquiao's got a bigger frame than Morales or Marquez, as seen in this nice article that most of you must have already seen. http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/3/15/2051585/boxing-science-how-manny-pacquiaos-body-has-tricked-analysts-and

    Edit : I still can't belive Pacquiao's wrist are the same size as Tyson... who got big wrists for a heavy.
     
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    if u have any experience or knowledge in peds, people can put on muscle mass, decrease body fat and maintain their body weight just by using peds. :deal
     
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    I know the Likar fight left alot of questions unanswered and acouple suspicions, but from what I saw Jmm did seem in shape and faster than his previous fights at 135. I think not only a mentally ready, but physically ready Jmm will be ready for Pacman. Speed and power were never Jmms strongest points as timing and momentum shifting was. The comparison to the MAB rematch was done because I feel Jmm like MAB will have the right idea on how to beat Pacman and even have acouple of surprises and win some exchanges, but ultimately just physically overwhelmed. Jmm might have the style to beat him, but his power needs to be relevant too & at least to get Pacmans attention. If Jmm cant hurt, confuse, or slow down Pacman theirs no momentum shift. Thats my only real concern and question if Manny will just walk thru Jmms punches. UD for Pacman.
     
  11. Duck Dodgers

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    Marquez will be closer to death than to winning the fight.
     
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    this.

    And stop the peds bs.
    2 words for that.

    court case.
    floyd will apologize and admit no evidence.
     
  13. divac

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    Thats an interesting read, though I dont know how much stock to put into just wrist size without taking into account all the other body measurements........

    Here's the tale of the tape for Marquez-Pac 2

    http://www.pacquiaovsmarquezfight.com/pacquiao-vs-marquez-tale-of-the-tape
    Marquez is comparable or exceeds Pacquiao in every catergory but wrist and calf size, Pac's calf being 2 inches bigger than Marquez.......

    I was suprised to see that Marquez' fist is bigger than Pacquiao's.......
    Things like fist, chest, thigh, waist......I'm certain other measurements than just wrist size determines who has a bigger frame.

    We're human beings, some people have bigger features in different parts of the body than others.


    Btw, Pacquiao being fast, I would think that a fighter with a big bone structure would be hampered speedwise.
    Thick boned (I'm not talking about fat people) are generally slow.
     
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    I was baffled as to why you mentioned MAB, when in actuality MAB did'nt have a clue as to how to go about beating Pacquiao.
    I dont think there is anything here to compare when it relates to MAB and JMM.......
    Marquez has the know how and attributes to how to go about breaking down a southpaw, MAB on the other hand does'nt.
     
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