Max Baer vs David Tua

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Aug 23, 2018.


Who wins and how

  1. Baer KO

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  2. Baer TKO

    9.6%
  3. Baer UD

    26.9%
  4. Baer SD

    3.8%
  5. Tua KO

    44.2%
  6. Tua TKO

    13.5%
  7. Tua UD

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  8. Tua SD

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  9. Draw

    1.9%
  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is "modern"? What makes Joe Louis less modern than someone like Deontay Wilder or John Ruiz?
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Luis Ortiz wouldn't oliberate everyone in any era. We had big, skilled fighters like him back then - George Godfrey for example - and he didn't dominate either.

    I'm not going to argue forever, believe whatever you want. Just keep in mind that saying "old sucks!" doesn't give much wisdom to this debate.
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mean, he handled Galento easily and Galento was seen as a dangerous fighter only because he was dirty and poweful, he wasn't some kind of world class opponent.
     
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  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I have done. Several times. If you want to reacquaint yourself with my reasoning do a search.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If your line of argument is valid, then it should be simple enough to articulate it.
     
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  6. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    modern is 70s to the way joe max and others fought was not modern
     
  7. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    your not wrong much your talking to a legend troll jan who is crazy
     
  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    It is, but if you're still convinced of your view then what's the point of doing it again?
     
  9. Fergy

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    I ain't the first to say this.
     
  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Deontay Wilder is more modern (so better) than Ezzard Charles because he was born later? Do you realize that human evolution doesn't work across two or three generations?
     
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  11. Fergy

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    If Max goes in and drops his defence then it's honey for Tua.
     
  12. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    only dummies like jan and others go off of titles of style of boxer swammer boxer brawler counter type

    it's all titles it has nothing to do with how a person skills is of said style
     
  13. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    so max was getting hit easy by other boxers and no real defense but is able to take dave who hit way harder then anybody back then with decent defense
    Dave was never lazy vs a person who was easy to hit liar

    your crazy real crazy
     
  14. moneytheman12

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    his way of fighting and slow footwork
    deontay would look like ali back then he wouldnt need his right hand to drop those dudes he would be able to with other punches
     
  15. janitor

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    I really can't see how you could arrive at this conclusion.

    There is no good reason to think that anybody in history could take Baer out, without hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink.

    There is also no good reason to think that Tua is likely to demolish any champion level fighter.

    Simply put, there is no historical precedent for either of the above events happening!
     
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