Max Schmeling v. Luis Ortiz

Ortiz blasts Schmeling early long before any counter right attrition occurs. Ortiz us simply too skilled and too much man. He's twice the fighter Baer was. And folks like to forget that Schmeling failed to get out of the blocks in 3 of his fights.

 

Schmeling is the much better historical fighter and a more complete fighter overall but you are asking a lot against him against large modern heavies. He was a light heavy for most of his career and Ortiz is a rather large man with a good chin. However he is also a two time ped cheat so who knows how good he really is, without it he got dropped twice by a very amateurish opponent.

 

What would that problem be, GOAT Primo Carnera?

 

50/50 vs Carnera?? What would be his odds against say..... Riddick Bowe??

 

Carnera is extremely durable and, but was weak to crushing right hands, which Ortiz lacks. Also, Carnera loved fighting slow guys like Ortiz. Also, Carnera isn't a novice like Jennings or a complete stiff like Cojanu. Carnera had a killer uppercut, which put away plenty of big guys and even a lot of small guys. The only reason I even said 50/50 was if Ortiz came in at 220 or less, since he'd had a good chance then, but at 230+ lbs he'd get timed and knocked out.

 

How did you come to the conclusion that he should?

 

How have you arrived at the conclusion that Ortiz was more skilled than Risko?

 

There is no disputing that Ortiz had physical advantages.

Risko obviously had a lot more professional experience.

Not sure how you would decide which of them was more skilled.

 

You´ll see, if we can get some more evaluations here: https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/187-holyfield-against-this-heavyweights.618961/
What do you think, how would Holy have done?