max schmeling vs evander holyfield

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  1. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this fight is at cruiserweight and is the schmeling of the first louis fight against the holyfield of the first qawi fight ,gloves are of schmeling's era
    the fight is over 15 rounds and there is no standing eight count.
     
  2. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Holyfield to fast, to sharp and to good for Max. 4th round KO
     
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  3. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Schmeling, absolutely no doubt. The guy who beat Louis is a superior fighter to the guy who beat Qawi.

    Prime for prime would be much closer and I'd probably elan more towards Holyfield then, but it's close.
     
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  4. KTFO

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    Def wouldn't go the distance. Would be war. Holy was a force at cruiserweight. Schmeling's win against Louis was a strategy job. I just don't see Schmeling destroying Holyfield's chin. On the other hand we have Holy with Ko-power and decent technique. So I'd say Holy by late round stoppage.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Schmelling would beat the Evander of the first Qawi fight.

    But not the Evander of the 2nd.
     
  6. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why are we talking about crusierweights? Schmeling was 190 lbs. He was a heavyweight. So was Holyfield at this weight.

    War? Before Schmeling destroyed Louis, he had been outpointed by Jack Sharkey and knocked out by Max Baer. He then dropped a decision to Steve Hamas and drew with Paulino Uzcudun. War? Please. Schmeling's only victory in this pre-Louis series was against middleweight Mickey Walker.

    Louis took the Schmeling fight because he figured Schmeling was a has-been. And, really, Schmeling was. The problem was that Schmeling wasn't enough of a has-been for Louis.

    I suppose people think Holyfield-Schmeling is a competitive fight because they believe Louis beats Holyfield and Schmeling handled Louis. There's a bad assumption in there. It's not hard to figure out.
     
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  7. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Put Holyfield in with Louis. They were the same size then. Holyfield will beat Louis.
     
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  8. Chris Warren

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    MrMarvel probably because 190 pounds isnt a heavyweight anymore it is a cruiserweight.

    Schmeling knocking Louis out isnt much of a big deal since Louis couldnt take a punch. Holyfield on the other hand could. Holyfield moved up and beat big fighters like Bowe. Max didnt and couldnt do the same.

    Holyfield would slaughter Schmeling.
     
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  9. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be a war of attrition. Slight edge to Holyfield.
     
  10. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    12 fights into his career might be cutting it too close. Put a little more seasoning on him, then he should win it. Victory through volume; starting and then finishing the exchanges.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i voted holyfield but only after it i noticed it is the 1st qawi fight holyfield.
    this makes it a tough question. i don't know , holyfield inexperienced .

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  12. Holmes' Jab

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    Evander, by UD.
     
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    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    a 3rd true assessment ! you do not fit here !
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    holyfield didn't really beat bowe , though , it is 2(1):1(0) for bowe , with holyfields' win a close MD. it is much more of 'bowe beat holyfield'.

    and seen 3 fights , btw , each one twice and more , i think that actually 3 times each one.
     
  15. JIm Broughton

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    I se Holyfield winning by mid round KO. Too much speed, chin,power and combination punching. Max would try for a sneaky right hand bomb to set up a fight ending combo but that's his only chance (and a small one at that). Holy would overwhelm him.
     
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