Maybe I don't understand physics but size=power, right?

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  1. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    The second point I believe is that guys with denser muscles, tighter ligaments, thicker bone structure and all that jazz have less energy dissipation upon delivery of a punch. If you think about the mechanics of the human body there are a ton of areas where energy can be dissipated, through the give of the bones, at each of the major joints, the knuckles. The more stable those things are, and the less give your fist has at the point of impact, the more of your energy you're going to be able to deliver. Maybe that's just bro science, but I think it's a good way to think about what is actually meant by "heavy handed" in cases where seemingly slow guys with crap technique are still able to knock fighters over with seeming ease.
     
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    Well yes using Lennox Lewis would be silly but I thought Nas did have power beyond his weight. I certainly don't think for example if Naz would have jumped two weight classes to 135lbs his power would not have travelled.

    Even at his own weight class all the other great fighters at the time no one came close to having that kind of one punch power Naz had. He could touch guys and they would go over.
     
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    I have asked coaches, went on a Google hunt, read articles and books, and tried to make sense of heavy handedness. It's difficult to make an exact science of it.

    You have my friends mom whose a very big and stocky woman with beefy hands. Her poor daughter's used to cry whenever they got their hair braided and my sister's shared their own horror stories because they said it felt like they were getting their scalp yanked by a gorilla. :lol: God forbid you make her angry she might knock you senseless.

    Then you have skinny lanky guys like my old coworker who has very heavy hands for some reason. I remember we were shadow boxing after work for fun, and with a quick glancing blow he made my arm sting for like 5 minutes it was ridiculous. His bones were like wrenches.

    In other words, almost any body type or bone structure might have those infamous denser bones/joints/muscular structure. Which seems very counterintuitive.

    On the other hand, you can have a very massive, muscular guy whose feather fisted and you can practically walk through his punches. It doesn't make any sense!

    Energy dissipation is a good theory though. Maybe these dense folks don't lose any of that "follow through" momentum/energy as they deliver the punch. And when the blow lands it connects solidly without any redirecting or loss of said energy. Like a thin, fancy curved sword vs a solid thick broadsword.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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    Yeah, lemme holler at you. I don't mean disrespect, I just think this is one of those things where people say it but when you really think about it, probably not. Lemme say first off that I didn't use Lennox as an example because I thought you believed that but because there was something out there at the time where people actually were saying that about the two of them from like pad work. Not the Thai food but when you pad your hands and stuff and the fighter hits it.

    But back to the punching above your weight, which is what I gotta a problem with. So, if he maintained his big punching at a higher weight, we gotta appreciate then at 135 who the punchers were. Ask yourself about the biggest lightweight punchers. Imagine Hamed against Castillo from the Corrales fight or Corrales of that fight against Kevin Kelley. I like Kevin, and we used to call him "The Flushing Kapowski" in my school at the time because we fux with him so hard then. But he ain't lasting like that with no Corrales-in my book- and Hamed ain't having that effect on no JLC like Corrales did-in my same book. I just feel like punching above your weight ain't a thing. People talk about it but it ain't what it is and what it is-it ain't that.